shoots low

[takem]

I picked up a new cm9 a few days ago. I broke it in today with 200 rounds of various brands and grains of ammo. No hiccups but it shoots low. About 3 inches low at 5 yards. I let two other guys shoot it and got the same result. Any ideas on what to do? I'd like it to be a little closer than that at 5 yards.
Thanks,
Brad

[muggsy]

You are either anticipating recoil and breaking your wrist down, or you aren't using the correct sight picture. The sight picture should look like a dotted i with the dot covering your intended point of impact. A six o'clock hold will result in shots going low. These are combat sights, not target sights. A lot of people are unfamiliar with them.

[takem]

That is the sight picture I used. Shot 3 other handguns with no issues. We tried different grip, stance and looked at the one of those pistol charts and made sure we weren't breaking down, drooping head or pushing forward. Round 1 and round 200 were all low.

[jocko]

ur 3 utter hadguns do not have the loooong trigger that your kahr has. buy a half dozen sanap caps and let someone load ur magazine so u don't know if one or 3 or none are in the magazine. It wills how ur shooting errors fast and furious. Its not the gun. Just sayin

We never readof a kahr onwer shooting high, but most all shooting errors are groups low and if ur a righttie low and left also. Ur Ok just shoot some more, but those snap caps will show u what is goin on.

see a tad more of the front site also will bring um up, but my bet is it anticipation of the BANG thing.

Ihave over 32K rounds thru my PMJ9 and I still anticipate badly and all my shots are low. Some shooters neverr cuddle up to kahrs looooong trigger system.

I have to agree with numnuts on this (muggsy) Just sayin

[takem]

I have snap caps and all I've been doing is dry fire drills in my garage because I couldn't get to the range. I dry fire balancing coins and snap caps on the slide. I feel very comfortable with it.

[takem]

I appreciate the help. Maybe this gun is not for me. It a shame, I liked the little guy. Thanks again.

[addictedhealer]

shoots low

Take a marker and cover up the dot. Go ol school and treat them like iron. I couldn't get use to them so I swapped mine out for trijicon 3 dot and shoot much much better.

[jocko]

dry firing

I have snap caps and all I've been doing is dry fire drills in my garage because I couldn't get to the range. I dry fire balancing coins and snap caps on the slide. I feel very comfortable with it.

is what it is. IT IS DRY FIREIN U know there is no bang. random snap caps in with live rounds is a whole new ball game.

IMO ur moving to fast with an opinion of this gun is four u or not. It is not a target tun, the loooong trigger system is ur only safety on this gun. Takes some time to get used to is. some indeed never master it to their expecatations either. If ur expectiong same hole groups, maybe it is not the gun for u. Its a defense gun that is very small and light kand u will carry it more thanb any utter gun u own. 3" low might seem alot but just get one of those FBI "Q" silhouette targets (bowling pin) and u will see that every shot u shoot is right in that target silhouette. Many here use POA shootng for again it is a defense gun and ur not gonna line up the front and back site and te target in a SHTF scenario. So many here just concentrate on the front site as ur friend and they get damn fast at that method to. again though it is ur call to make, we are here to give recommendations,,, nuttin more.

I think most all forum members will agree that kahrs are not the easiets guns to shoot the kind of groups u might be used to with utter guns, but most stick with it and get very confident with the gun.. Just sayin

[CJB]

Not terribly sorry to say, its not the pistol, but the shooters.

Lets do the math: Off by three inches in five yards. Lets see, five yards is 180 inches. Divide that by 4.5 inch sight radius, and you get 40. Three inches off, divided by 40 and you get .075 inches. Nothing in your pistol is off by that amount.

Keep in mind, at close distance, like 5 yards, you can expect to shoot a little low due to offset of bore to sights, etc.

And, to top it off, I shot horribly low with my PM's when I first got 'em. Was used to nice single action 1911 pulls. Was used to terrible single action Browning HP pulls. I shot a lot low. Took a while to learn to not try to shoot the pistol like the worlds creepiest single action trigger. It works for me when I just give it a nice quick and steady and continuous pull. No tryin to sneak up on its release. That does not work for me - maybe you too?

[mikemc53]

I'm not one to try and talk somebody into keeping something they don't want, so I won't. I will say this though: everything you've been told here is right on. These sights take getting used to but my money is more on the bang twitch. It is way more common than most would ever anticipate. Long DAO triggers are notorious for this.

My experience is almost exclusively with long DAO triggers but I will tell you this about the Kahr. It is so smooth and clean that the length of pull has no negative affect on the performance. I love it and after getting used to the sights, I am pretty darn accurate.

If it's not for you, so be it, but...it isn't the gun.

Also:
Jocko...welcome back (professor is in the house).

[takem]

I'll give it another try and maybe after that I'll try a shorter sight.

[takem]

Thanks for all the help. Most forums would of just bashed me. Ha. It's been a long day of car repairs followed by a new gun not shooting how I'd like.
thanks for the support.

[RRP]

This isn't "most forums".

You've received good advice, here. Yours is a question we've heard many times. Keep an open mind and heed the advice. You'll learn to love this little pistol.

Good luck.

[warbird1]

Some really good advice on this thread. Nothing to add.

[scosgt]

I had the same issue with my CM40. I bought a laser bore sight and there was NOTHING wrong with the gun.
I put on night sights and that, along with concentration, helped immensly