Bawanna's PM45 Preflight Report

[jocko]

super accuracy Bawanna, really is. These kahrs will shoot once one learns the basics of kahrs. Not sure anything will ever tame a 40 cal down but trust me magna porting sure helps it alot.

If I had the PM45 I would port it for sure, why not, must more pleasant to shoot and as u stated certainly looks good to.

[kramm]

I'm happy for you Bawanna, Tiny and you will become closer and closer as you two bond.:33:Looked like some good shooting to me. Nice report.

[jocko]

yes they willbond and here is the reason why

I'm happy for you Bawanna, Tiny and you will become closer and closer as you two bond.:33:Looked like some good shooting to me. Nice report.

TINY CANNOT TALK BACK

[Bawanna]

TINY CANNOT TALK BACK

I think you've discovered one of the true facts of life. Probably why I so prefer guns over women. I love women without a doubt but much prefer guns. Much less agravation and heartache.
About the only thing in life really that doesn't piss me off at one point or another. Even a good Harley ticks ya off when it decides it don't want to start, same with street rods, you name it. Guns always good except the waiting for a new one periods and sadly those periods seem to be becoming further and further apart. And if they fail, you can just set it aside or tinker with it at your leisure until all is well again.
Tiny may not talk but she barks really loud, but it's sort of musical in it's own way.

[Bawanna]

Hey Bawanna,

I have gone back and read this entire thread. Since I cannot get online as much as I am use to. Due to the WORK thing and the FLOOD thing here in Nashville.
But, I am really happy to read your range report on the new PM45. CONGRATS to you !!! I am really glad that yours is functioning good.

I got really frustrated when mine had it's problems. But, now, with the help of the mothership. My PM45 is flawless too ! I just love that little gun. I never leave home without it.

Once again, congrats. I know you have wanted to own one for a long, long time................

NOW I WONDER WHEN JOCKO IS GONNA BREAK DOWN & GET ONE ???

I think Mr. Jocko is a pretty devout PM9 and if he got one it would just be a wall hanger which is perfectly fine for me. The PM45 has made a couple of my others more wall hanger status and thats ok too.
I'm about to go out and attempt to pound them XS Big dots on Tiny. Last time I pounded on Kahr sites they were down right tight. I brought home a couple site pushers hoping one will at least break em loose. I think once I get the old off, the new will go on easy. Some loot headed your way tomorrow for sure.
I'll report back on my progress if I don't smack my finger with the hammer.

[Michael W.]

I think Mr. Jocko is a pretty devout PM9 and if he got one it would just be a wall hanger which is perfectly fine for me. The PM45 has made a couple of my others more wall hanger status and thats ok too.
I'm about to go out and attempt to pound them XS Big dots on Tiny. Last time I pounded on Kahr sites they were down right tight. I brought home a couple site pushers hoping one will at least break em loose. I think once I get the old off, the new will go on easy. Some loot headed your way tomorrow for sure.
I'll report back on my progress if I don't smack my finger with the hammer.

Hey I'm definitely interested in how you make out with the sights.
I've ALWAYS done my own night sights on my Glocks with a drift punch.
But all this talk of Kahr welding their sights on has got me a-skeered to try
it. To quote a famous and wise native american...."Looks dangerous kemosabee, you go first...."

M-

[Bawanna]

Hey I'm definitely interested in how you make out with the sights.
I've ALWAYS done my own night sights on my Glocks with a drift punch.
But all this talk of Kahr welding their sights on has got me a-skeered to try
it. To quote a famous and wise native american...."Looks dangerous kemosabee, you go first...."

M-

I'm happy to announce the operation was a complete success. About 10 minutes to install, 2.8 hours to take pictures. Tiny is resting comfortably in the recovery room in the dark with his own built in night light.

The last Kahr sights I messed with were incredibly tight. I did the front first and it went slick, so I figured I would be totally cursed on the back. No sweat. Brass punch, couple of whacks and it moved, I knew I was home free. I did do the prerequiste little dings in the sight base, and one very small ding in the slide, hardly worth noting. No harm, battle scars are good. I like em a bunch. Now I gotta go shoot it again to make sure we're looking in the same place but I think we're good.
I thought a good shot of mangled fingers that went thru the table saw first week of january would be a nice bonus. As you can see the finger nails are almost all the way back, fingers a little crooked but the thought of straightening them makes me hurt thinking about it.

[snuffy]

Glad to hear the operation was a success. I've been thinking of a sight swap myself and hearing that the old sights came out without major surgery just might get me motivated.

[kahrseye]

I'm happy to announce the operation was a complete success. About 10 minutes to install, 2.8 hours to take pictures. Tiny is resting comfortably in the recovery room in the dark with his own built in night light.

The last Kahr sights I messed with were incredibly tight. I did the front first and it went slick, so I figured I would be totally cursed on the back. No sweat. Brass punch, couple of whacks and it moved, I knew I was home free. I did do the prerequiste little dings in the sight base, and one very small ding in the slide, hardly worth noting. No harm, battle scars are good. I like em a bunch. Now I gotta go shoot it again to make sure we're looking in the same place but I think we're good.
I thought a good shot of mangled fingers that went thru the table saw first week of january would be a nice bonus. As you can see the finger nails are almost all the way back, fingers a little crooked but the thought of straightening them makes me hurt thinking about it.

Glad Tiny's operation was a success. LOVE your ring, very cool. Just a question....is it the angle of the camera in the last picture that makes it look off kilter? Sights don't look like they're lining up.

[Bawanna]

Glad Tiny's operation was a success. LOVE your ring, very cool. Just a question....is it the angle of the camera in the last picture that makes it look off kilter? Sights don't look like they're lining up.

Yup it's camera angle, try taking that picture sometime. It's real tough to get the sights and the camera and everything on the same plane. Some here have done a beautiful job of it in the past. My son took these pics, too many buttons on his camera for me to figure it out.
My wife had that ring made for me about 35 years ago, quite a few years before we got hitched. Had it redone several times, been broke, squished, construction was tough on rings, watches and carpenters. I do truely charish it and I'm glad it got in the picture to share.
For the record, the morning after I love these XS sights even more. I looked at em before I even got up to see if I'd have to chew my arm off to escape coyote ugly but didn't happen, I like em, some don't but I surely do.
Thanks ryoung for hooking me up with these, your are indeed da man!

[Bawanna]

Bawanna,
Dang ! Those things look good on your gun !!!! I don't remember them looking that good on mine. I guess I am just too accustomed to 3 dot sights to change my ways now.

Glad you got em' on with no problem. Nice pic's.

Yup, no problems, all is good. I sent a package of marbles your way in todays outgoing mail. Cateyes, purees, lots of good ones, no steelies, to heavy.
Now to build up my nerve to do a little jocko melt down on that slide lock lever. For some reason I'm almost afraid to mess with it. She's looking pretty fine right about now.

[Bawanna]

Tiny's Misbehaving.

Good and bad Fathers day range session today. Second trip out for Tiny. As my usual practice I shot Tiny first with the rounds I've been carrying in her to make sure everything is right with the world. It lit off all 6 Gold dots in fine fashion and not a bad group either.
After that for as yet unexplained reasons it all went wrong. Numerous failures to go into battery, sometimes what I call a catastrophic failure, the round started in, didn't go all the way, couldn't force it into battery but also the slide didn't want to retract, stuck up tight. Your basic throw the gun at the bad guy and run for your life scenario, not good. Haven't dissasembled it yet to look things over. I did discover and convince myself in my own mine that limp wristing really effects the rounds to the forhead. I shot a couple times in an awkward position, derelicts do that now and then and anything remotely close to limp wristing caused a hot case to the forehead. One actually got stuck in my shooting glasses. I thought wow that one hurts and it's still burning, then I realized it was still there and didn't fall away. No lasting damage and I didn't even cry. Anytime I shot what I call solid, there was no smack to the forhead..................
I played with other stuff so I didn't get too frustrated and towards the end of the session tried it again. Went thru 2 mags of my reloads and a mag full of Gold Dots with no hiccups????? It didn't run on Gold Dot's, Handloads or even some round ball I had for awhile.
On the good side, the XS Big Dot's work like a champ, easy to see and right on the money. I shot my Smith 41 and it was a tack driver as usual. Took out my winchester 52 and it was perfect too.
My Para's which didn't do so good accuracy wise last trip were all right on the money this time so all is semi good.
Tiny is on the injured reserve list in a state of confusion until I can figure out what's what with that.
My slide lock lever reduction worked super also. Not a single slide lock with bullets left, wasn't even an issue. So 2 steps forward and 1 step back.
We're up to about 350 rounds thru Tiny, I'll post an update when I get inside and see whats what. I'm really not dissapointed at this point more like totally confused. First trip nearly flawless and this trip a mulitude of issues.

Hmmmm.

[Michael W.]

Good and bad Fathers day range session today. Second trip out for Tiny. As my usual practice I shot Tiny first with the rounds I've been carrying in her to make sure everything is right with the world. It lit off all 6 Gold dots in fine fashion and not a bad group either.
After that for as yet unexplained reasons it all went wrong. Numerous failures to go into battery, sometimes what I call a catastrophic failure, the round started in, didn't go all the way, couldn't force it into battery but also the slide didn't want to retract, stuck up tight. Your basic throw the gun at the bad guy and run for your life scenario, not good. Haven't dissasembled it yet to look things over. I did discover and convince myself in my own mine that limp wristing really effects the rounds to the forhead. I shot a couple times in an awkward position, derelicts do that now and then and anything remotely close to limp wristing caused a hot case to the forehead. One actually got stuck in my shooting glasses. I thought wow that one hurts and it's still burning, then I realized it was still there and didn't fall away. No lasting damage and I didn't even cry. Anytime I shot what I call solid, there was no smack to the forhead..................
I played with other stuff so I didn't get too frustrated and towards the end of the session tried it again. Went thru 2 mags of my reloads and a mag full of Gold Dots with no hiccups????? It didn't run on Gold Dot's, Handloads or even some round ball I had for awhile.
On the good side, the XS Big Dot's work like a champ, easy to see and right on the money. I shot my Smith 41 and it was a tack driver as usual. Took out my winchester 52 and it was perfect too.
My Para's which didn't do so good accuracy wise last trip were all right on the money this time so all is semi good.
Tiny is on the injured reserve list in a state of confusion until I can figure out what's what with that.
My slide lock lever reduction worked super also. Not a single slide lock with bullets left, wasn't even an issue. So 2 steps forward and 1 step back.
We're up to about 350 rounds thru Tiny, I'll post an update when I get inside and see whats what. I'm really not dissapointed at this point more like totally confused. First trip nearly flawless and this trip a mulitude of issues.

Hmmmm.

Bawanna,

Sorry to hear about Tiny. But true to form I think you and I are on
the same "track". If you recall my second trip out with my PM45 it got locked
up the same way and I wound up calling for the range hand for help. He gave
it a good shove and it opened up ejecting the unfired round. In my case
it was the recoil srping guide retention flange taking flight somewhere
during that shooting string allowing the recoil guide assembly to get
mis-aligned (or cattywampus) which locked up the works. I'd be
looking closely at the recoil spring assembly as a possible culprit for causing
the lockup.

Looking forward to the "research" findings......(sorry couldn't resist)

M-

[Bawanna]

Bawanna,

Sorry to hear about Tiny. But true to form I think you and I are on
the same "track". If you recall my second trip out with my PM45 it got locked
up the same way and I wound up calling for the range hand for help. He gave
it a good shove and it opened up ejecting the unfired round. In my case
it was the recoil srping guide retention flange taking flight somewhere
during that shooting string allowing the recoil guide assembly to get
mis-aligned (or cattywampus) which locked up the works. I'd be
looking closely at the recoil spring assembly as a possible culprit for causing
the lockup.

Looking forward to the "research" findings......(sorry couldn't resist)

M-

At this point I'm just considering it another personal challeng. I actually remembered your 2nd range trip post and when I saw Tiny out of battery, a string of colorful language exited my lips with your name at the end. First thing I did was look to see if the end of the quide rod was still in close proximity to the front of the gun and alas all was where it belonged and still tight. I was able to briskly jerk the slide back and get it open but I thought I was in deep trouble for a bit.
Like I say I haven't even took it apart yet but you can rest assure I'll make it run if I have to spend years researching. I don't have much give up in me. I've been called a loser many times but never a quitter.
As a side note, I took 3 poor novist shooters, a lady, daughter and son who were in the next lane with dad, grandpa and unknown others and turned them into pretty fair and much more confident shooters.
Their grips were all wrong, the boy was a bit outgunned shooting a 45 1911, he did ok but he wasn't enjoying it. Let them shoot my Smith 41 "alot" and then had the boy go back to the 45 with a good solid grip and all he could do was smile. Group went from about target size to maybe 6" at 5 yards. Mom and daughter very similar but stayed with the 22. Grandpa even came over to watch and asked how to adjust his grip better. My son was actually a bit embarrased, said I shouldn't just jump in and try to help, I told him they are much happier, more confident, and will be more anxious to come to the range again. The fact that I donated 150 or so 22's didn't hurt in the slightest. That made my day right there, even earned me a hug from mom and daughter and a high five from the boy. Don't get better than that.

[O'Dell]

At this point I'm just considering it another personal challeng. I actually remembered your 2nd range trip post and when I saw Tiny out of battery, a string of colorful language exited my lips with your name at the end. First thing I did was look to see if the end of the quide rod was still in close proximity to the front of the gun and alas all was where it belonged and still tight. I was able to briskly jerk the slide back and get it open but I thought I was in deep trouble for a bit.
Like I say I haven't even took it apart yet but you can rest assure I'll make it run if I have to spend years researching. I don't have much give up in me. I've been called a loser many times but never a quitter.
As a side note, I took 3 poor novist shooters, a lady, daughter and son who were in the next lane with dad, grandpa and unknown others and turned them into pretty fair and much more confident shooters.
Their grips were all wrong, the boy was a bit outgunned shooting a 45 1911, he did ok but he wasn't enjoying it. Let them shoot my Smith 41 "alot" and then had the boy go back to the 45 with a good solid grip and all he could do was smile. Group went from about target size to maybe 6" at 5 yards. Mom and daughter very similar but stayed with the 22. Grandpa even came over to watch and asked how to adjust his grip better. My son was actually a bit embarrased, said I shouldn't just jump in and try to help, I told him they are much happier, more confident, and will be more anxious to come to the range again. The fact that I donated 150 or so 22's didn't hurt in the slightest. That made my day right there, even earned me a hug from mom and daughter and a high five from the boy. Don't get better than that.

I'm sorry about Tiny. I'm well over 400 rounds now with my PM45 with nary a problem. I've shot mostly Federal ball and GD's and GS's. The only time I get hit by a casing is when they bounce off the wall next to me. When I sent my pistol back to Kahr for the "notch" and "gap" work they installed a new recoil assy, even though it only had a hundred rounds or so at that point. Maybe they have a new and improved one.

I think you did right helping the other family. I would have done the same.