CM9 first range report

[MBSL500]

You have a situation where a substantial number of people who have bought brand new CM9's and shot less than 150 rounds through them, are breaking followers.
They are not breaking due to cleaning, shooting technique, ammunition, sun spots or climate change.
They are breaking because Kahr is shipping (in some cases) a defective product.
Sending the gun back and waiting 4 to 6 weeks for it's return is not a solution.
Having the gun work (like it should) right out of the box is the solution.

Kahr is sending new guns out the door knowing there is a good chance many will need to come back for the same repair.
That is not something a responsible manufacturer does.
It doesn't matter if they're making toasters, cars or vacuum cleaners.

[berettabone]

My integrity is in question because I didn't clean a firearm that had one round test fired through it? Yeah ok bud. Second, every other gun I own is perfectly fine slingshotting the slide. In fact it's a poor tactic to use the release. All of this is irrelevant to my follower breaking. I've carried a gun every day for the last 15 years and have never had an issue with anything breaking except for some cheap Promags. I know how to properly clean a weapon. I didn't come on here bashing the gun. I came on here with an honest first time review. Take it or leave it. Like I've said, hopefully all the bugs get worked out because I like this gun.

If you would have read the manual, it states not to try any slingshotting until it's properly broken in, and to use the slide release. Second, like our POTUS says, If you like your firearm, you can keep it. A Kahr isn't like any other firearm.

[berettabone]

You have a situation where a substantial number of people who have bought brand new CM9's and shot less than 150 rounds through them, are breaking followers.
They are not breaking due to cleaning, shooting technique, ammunition, sun spots or climate change.
They are breaking because Kahr is shipping (in some cases) a defective product.
Sending the gun back and waiting 4 to 6 weeks for it's return is not a solution.
Having the gun work (like it should) right out of the box is the solution.

Kahr is sending new guns out the door knowing there is a good chance many will need to come back for the same repair.
That is not something a responsible manufacturer does.
It doesn't matter if they're making toasters, cars or vacuum cleaners.

It's crazy how people just keep purchasing them, isn't it?

[MBSL500]

If you would have read the manual, it states not to try any slingshotting until it's properly broken in, and to use the slide release. Second, like our POTUS says, If you like your firearm, you can keep it. A Kahr isn't like any other firearm.

Sling-shotting a Kahr does not cause followers to break.
Period.
I've owned a lot of small 9's made by a lot of different manufacturers.
Each of those manufacturers made a unique gun that was "not like any other firearm".
None of them broke followers.

[DavidR]

CM9 first range report

The gun shouldn't, right out of the box, break followers. Mine didn't. I've had it less than 3 weeks and have 400 rounds through it. mxguy's CM9 is defective and Kahr should bend over backwards to make things right.

It's hard to know from postings on a forum but it just seems like there is a manufacturing problem.


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[berettabone]

Sling-shotting a Kahr does not cause followers to break.
Period.
I've owned a lot of small 9's made by a lot of different manufacturers.
Each of those manufacturers made a unique gun that was "not like any other firearm".
None of them broke followers.

Never said it did....................you are STILL not supposed to slingshot the firearm until broken in...........broken follower, or no broken follower. Which part don't you understand? The $100 offer still stands. If you want to argue about proper break in procedure, go over to the Glock forum..........they like it over there.

[berettabone]

Apparently, the follower is hitting the feed ramp. You can attempt to fix this yourself, with some polishing of the ramp, and or followers, you can contact Kahr, and send it back for them to fix, or you can continue to bash a firearm that you own, which makes you look like a fool..................your call. Other than going over to his house and holding his hand, I don't see any other cure.

[MBSL500]

It's crazy how people just keep purchasing them, isn't it?

Not at all. Most people who buy a CM9 don't have a clue about the follower issue before buying one.
They see one at Cabellas and they buy it.
What I find curious is that someone would purchase one after knowing that there is a good chance his brand new gun will have
to be sent back for a 4-6 week repair.

[MBSL500]

Apparently, the follower is hitting the feed ramp. You can attempt to fix this yourself, with some polishing of the ramp, and or followers, you can contact Kahr, and send it back for them to fix, or you can continue to bash a firearm that you own, which makes you look like a fool..................your call. Other than going over to his house and holding his hand, I don't see any other cure.

Why is the follower hitting the feed ramp?

[berettabone]

Not at all. Most people who buy a CM9 don't have a clue about the follower issue before buying one.
They see one at Cabellas and they buy it.

What I find curious is that someone would purchase one after knowing that there is a good chance his brand new gun will have
to be sent back for a 4-6 week repair.

I don't find it curious, I find it downright idiotic. If you don't do your due diligence before a purchase, it's your own fault. I would have no problem purchasing one myself, because I have taken the time to read and study Kahr firearms, along with listening to the the expertise of those on this forum. It is possible to have problems with ANY firearm, regardless of the manufacturer. Out of the thousands and thousands of these firearms sold, of course, your going to see the problem ones on this forum. If I were he, I would not give up on this firearm.............it can be cured.

[colding]

What I find curious is that someone would purchase one after knowing that there is a good chance his brand new gun will have
to be sent back for a 4-6 week repair.

I bought mine knowing full well it may have a fixable issue with breaking followers on the magazines. I did my research and found that once the issue is fixed (assuming you actually have one that needs repair), it's a superb gun with a smooth trigger and a very reasonable price. It's one of the smallest 9mm's on the market. There is nothing else in this category of firearm to really compare it to. I'll happily live with just carrying my XDs while Kahr repairs any issues I 'might' have. Just my .02 worth.

On that same note, I also purchased my truck knowing full well there were issues with the brake rotors being too small for the truck and would probably warp and need to be replaced as part of a recall. I did, because I had done my research again finding that if the brakes had to be replaced under warranty, there were no other significant issues with a otherwise fantastic vehicle.

Moral of the story: Don't let one small, easily correctible issue keep you from a chance at owning something with a high value for a great cost.

[berettabone]

Why is the follower hitting the feed ramp?

The feed ramp is probably a slight bit long on the bottom edge. It's new, so I would let Kahr deal with it, as to not interfere with the warranty. Could also be a bad magazine.

[rjt123]

CM9 first range report

Sling-shotting a Kahr does not cause followers to break.
Period.
I've owned a lot of small 9's made by a lot of different manufacturers.
Each of those manufacturers made a unique gun that was "not like any other firearm".
None of them broke followers.

Dude. If you're so bent out of shape about how awful Kahr firearms are and what a crappy company they are...why don't you do the intelligent thing and leave this MB. It's clear that you're only here to bash and trash talk Kahr. So why not go somewhere that you will be appreciated? Because you aren't appreciated here.

Oh yes...I went there. Have a nice day.

[MBSL500]

The feed ramp is probably a slight bit long on the bottom edge. It's new, so I would let Kahr deal with it, as to not interfere with the warranty.

My question was rhetorical.

A better question should be:
Why has Kahr continued to ship CM9's knowing that some feed ramps are too long?

This isn't rocket science.
You designate someone to sit at a bench with calipers and have them measure every barrel feed ramp before putting them in guns and shipping them out.
The ones that are too long get sent back to be machined.

[berettabone]

My question was rhetorical.

A better question should be:
Why has Kahr continued to ship CM9's knowing that some feed ramps are too long?

This isn't rocket science.
You designate someone to sit at a bench with calipers and have them measure every barrel feed ramp before putting them in guns and shipping them out.
The ones that are too long get sent back to be machined.

and if turds were gold, we'd all be rich.