I don't care how much it weighs, or printing for that matter..........
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For comparison:
P380: 13.95 ounces w. 6+1 BB 90-gr +P GDs, or Underwood +P 90-gr GD's
PM9: 19.9 ounces with 6+1 124-gr +P GD Short Barrel
P9: 22.1 ounces with 7+1 124-gr +P GD Short Barrel with 4" ported barrel
P40: 24.5 ounces with 6+1 180-gr +P GD Short Barrel
PM45: 23.85 ounces with 5+1 230-gr +P GD Short Barrel.
All pistols have the bike tube grip covers and the metal base plates, except the PM45.
Wynn
USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf
Thomas Jefferson said
“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
and
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".
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23oz with spare magazine, 14 rounds of .380 in my back pocket. (MaelWear holster) Feels like it's not even there.Attached Files
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All stuff aside..................what allows me to carry more weight in my front pocket are suspenders............a dirty word for younger guys, but when you get older, you'll cross over. If I front carried with a belt, my pants would look like a plumbers. Suspenders allow me to carry very heavy things. For real heavy, I use a belt, and some Perry suspenders. That will allow me to carry the heaviest firearm IWB, or OWB. I prefer the heavier firearm, less recoil, more accurate. It allows me to be somewhat flexible in my carry. I know if I went to Tupperware guns, I would probably not feel a thing, after carrying heavy. I also carry IWB with a belt only. The perfect way to carry hasn't been invented yet.
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If a sign could stop evil….They’d make holsters for them!!
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Interesting...I can assume my CM9 with 147g Gold Dots would weigh the same, plus my holster weight puts it at 20.3.Originally posted by C0untZer0 View PostMy scale said the CM9 weighed 14.1 ounces. I weighed it a number of times and checked the accuracy of the scale with a 1 ounce weight. On the other hand, the magazine turned out to be lighter than what Kahr has on their website. Kahr states that the magazine weighs 1.9 ounces and my scale had it at 1.5 ounces. The CM9 loaded with 7 rounds of Winchester RA9T weighs 18.9 ounces. When the holster is added, the whole thing weighs 20.8 ounces.
My powder scale tops out at 179 grains so I can't weigh the whole thing...If a sign could stop evil….They’d make holsters for them!!
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Someone on another forum said something like "The weight difference between the SCCY and PM9 is negligible" I went crazy weighing stuff.
A brass cased 115gr 9mm cartridge weighs about .39 oz
A brass cased 124gr 9mm cartridge weighs about .41 oz
A brass cased 147gr 9mm cartridge weighs about .46 oz
When people say these larger pistols are "POCKET PISTOLS" they seldom factor in a holster. So they're stuffing a SCCY or a Glock 26 into a pocket, without a holster, and don't take into account that they're very difficult to pull and wriggle the thing back out of a pocket, either that or they're wearing Carhharts, Dickies or some other type of work pants - not typical Levis, Lee or Wrangler jeans.
And I think people who are out to make a point about their favorite gun brand really being pocketable ignore that lugging 25+ ounces in a pocket really becomes a pain, because they're too focused on proving their point about their favorite gun to be honest about how they're really not pocket pistols.
But anyway, that is what prompted me to starting weighing actual cartridges...
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Once I purchased a good belt, I don't even notice a PM9 when pocket carrying it. I don't yet have the physique that requires suspenders yet, but a good belt that doesn't stretch and sag makes pocket carry not problem, even while running.Aftermarket accessories for Kahr Pistols at https://lakelinellc.com/
There are always more in the pipeline...
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[QUOTE=C0untZer0;
When people say these larger pistols are "POCKET PISTOLS" they seldom factor in a holster. So they're stuffing a SCCY or a Glock 26 into a pocket, without a holster, and don't take into account that they're very difficult to pull and wriggle the thing back out of a pocket, either that or they're wearing Carhharts, Dickies or some other type of work pants - not typical Levis, Lee or Wrangler jeans.
And I think people who are out to make a point about their favorite gun brand really being pocketable ignore that lugging 25+ ounces in a pocket really becomes a pain, because they're too focused on proving their point about their favorite gun to be honest about how they're really not pocket pistols.
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Exactly...I wouldn't pocket carry my LCP as it's so bulky in the pocket. The Kahrs are way to heavy for me to consider pocket carrying.
(Not to mention I don't wear any pants with pockets that one would fit into very well).
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I could not get comfortable with IWB carry, so I went to pocket carry. I already had a 40 cal Glock 23 and I did not want to get into another caliber, so I decided to stay with 40 cal. My preference is metal over composite so I decided on a Kahr MK40. The size was ok but needed to consider the weight. I did not buy the gun and then make it work for me. I put the Glock in my pocket and carried it around for a few days. The weight was not a problem, so I ordered the MK40 and carry it every day.
For me personally (I am 6'4' and over 250), size is much more important than weight. Size is important because I want to carry concealed and it needs to fit in my pocket, and I almost exclusively wear cargo pants/shorts.
It makes no difference to me whether the pistol weighs 14 ounces or 24 ounces, both are heavy enough to swing and bounce against a persons leg. If a belt will keep your pants up with a gun clipped directly to it, it should keep your pants up if the gun is hanging from it on a rope or stuck in your pocket.
That's my opinion."Typing the word "grandparents," I mistyped and the autocorrect changed it to CandyLand. Not entirely inaccurate." - Our daughter.
A Kahr, a Glock, a Ruger, two Brownings, two Remingtons, and a Crossman.
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