CM9 Failed Safety test update

[Antarius]

Hey man at least you're a problem solver. Good work.

[yqtszhj]

Hey guys.
Yes I realize that when the slide is on the gun, and is sliding forward. The cam/trigger snags the firing pin and pulls it back a tad. So when locked and loaded the pin is not protruding.
However the concern comes from a unlikely scenario. If the gun drops. The shock of it landing. Could tweak the gun just enough to cause the frame and slide to move up enough for the striker to fly forward. That is why the striker block is there.

Anyway, today I took the striker out and filed down the tip just a little. It no longer protrudes past the breech. No mater how hard I push on it. I did this because I really wanted to take it to the range. I had lots of fun with it. Shoots really well for such a small gun

I ordered a new striker today from Kahr, only $16.95.
If it does not protrude. Then that means the original striker was too long, and I'll have my self a spare striker.
If the new one protrudes. I'll send the gun back to Kahr.

Thanks for the help guys

Somebody promote this man to Full Member from jr. Member. I didn't hear one cry, moan, or accuzation that all kahrs are junk.

WELCOME TO KAHRTALK !!!

[muggsy]

Muggsy's technocratic reply is of course technocratically correct, and I hope our combined clarification resolves any difficulty folks had understanding how the mechanism works.

Wait just one minute there, CJB. I'm not a technocrat. I'm a registered republican.

[muggsy]

The striker (assy) has two parts that move - the striker is not directly connected to the spring tension, but is moved by the "spacer" which sort of allows the striker itself to move on its own. The spacer stops, but the striker will continue moving and contact the firing pin. As such, there is a little play in things, but not much.

Muggsy's technocratic reply is of course technocratically correct, and I hope our combined clarification resolves any difficulty folks had understanding how the mechanism works.

The striker is moved by the striker spring the striker spacer keeps the striker aligned with the hole in the front of the slide. Geez, I gotta teach you guys everything.

[Baklash]

I don't know exactly what the he!! is happening there, but I love the support you are getting from this forum. BTW, it seems you have reached a good decision in how you are going to resolve it.

[addictedhealer]

Quick question. If and when you rack a round in the chamber that cocks the striker partly thus not letting it touch the primer. So in theory your test is void. Am I correct in this?

[Antarius]

As far as I can tell, yes.

[muggsy]

Hey guys.
Yes I realize that when the slide is on the gun, and is sliding forward. The cam/trigger snags the firing pin and pulls it back a tad. So when locked and loaded the pin is not protruding.
However the concern comes from a unlikely scenario. If the gun drops. The shock of it landing. Could tweak the gun just enough to cause the frame and slide to move up enough for the striker to fly forward. That is why the striker block is there

Anyway, today I took the striker out and filed down the tip just a little. It no longer protrudes past the breech. No mater how hard I push on it. I did this because I really wanted to take it to the range. I had lots of fun with it. Shoots really well for such a small gun

I ordered a new striker today from Kahr, only $16.95.
If it does not protrude. Then that means the original striker was too long, and I'll have my self a spare striker.
If the new one protrudes. I'll send the gun back to Kahr.

Thanks for the help guys

By shortening the striker you may have created a problem. If the striker doesn't protrude far enough it may result in light primer strikes and misfires. There's an old saying. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Especially, if you don't know what the fokk yer doin. Kids.

[b4uqzme]

Light strikes aren't necessarily dangerous unless you are carrying for SD. Seems like OP shortened the pin as a temp solution/experiment vs. a permanent fix. Am I right OP? Seems like an OK step towards the final resolution IMHO. Then again, we haven't even confirmed there is a problem?

[CJB]

Oh Muggsy, I wonder sometimes if you even venture out on a rainy day any more

[muggsy]

Oh Muggsy, I wonder sometimes if you even venture out on a rainy day any more

Very seldom do I venture out on rainy days. I'm so sweet I might melt.

[muggsy]

I know that don't know the meaning of the word tact and that at times I may be a bit blunt, but my heart is always in the right place. I'd hate like hell to see this new Kahr owner to find himself in a position where he needs a gun and finding himself with a gun that won't fire. My suggestion to him would be to replace the striker that he altered with the factory new striker and leave well enough alone. His gun didn't have a problem to begin with.

[jocko]

Hey guys.
Yes I realize that when the slide is on the gun, and is sliding forward. The cam/trigger snags the firing pin and pulls it back a tad. So when locked and loaded the pin is not protruding.
However the concern comes from a unlikely scenario. If the gun drops. The shock of it landing. Could tweak the gun just enough to cause the frame and slide to move up enough for the striker to fly forward. That is why the striker block is there.

Anyway, today I took the striker out and filed down the tip just a little. It no longer protrudes past the breech. No mater how hard I push on it. I did this because I really wanted to take it to the range. I had lots of fun with it. Shoots really well for such a small gun

I ordered a new striker today from Kahr, only $16.95.
If it does not protrude. Then that means the original striker was too long, and I'll have my self a spare striker.
If the new one protrudes. I'll send the gun back to Kahr.

Thanks for the help guys

wow, IMO u just fokker up ur striker. Ur assuing alot in ur texts as the gun not bei right. SEND THE FOKKER BACK and let kahr fix it then. U IMO have no clue in what u did. Why anyone would file down a striker when allu haveto do is call kahr and get anutter one. I am sure they will not just send u a new one no charge unless it had a broken tip but not on ur assumption that it is to long etc. U are IMO effecting the reliabilityt of the most important part of that gun.. Kahrs are drop safe, never been a AD on their guns.If there is one feature that kahrs have it is a drop safe issue. In as much as kahrs are at best 15% pre-cocked where as glock is over 50% precocked, even if that that striker came off the cocking cam, there is not enough enertia there to fire anything. . I would not trust what u did to your kahr in any way shape or form. Ur assumng alot in your description of what YOU think is an issue. If this is an issue, which I do feel it is not, but if u do, then u should at least consult kahr tech people with your scenario and see what they have to say, BEFORE fling a fokking striker tip. that is what u have a warranty for. Consider this, when u do send it back and IMO u will more than likely do that as ur getting confliciting fixes from all of us and then kahr is gonna see u modified the striker,I seriously doubt if your gonna get WARRANTY SERVICE and you will incure some type of charges if at best return postage on ur dollar which will be hefty. U HAVE MODIFED a new gun and that gives kahr every rigt to even return the gun unfixed or to send u a letter telling u what they are gonna charge u to fixed ur unwarranted gun..That gun is not gonna fire if dropped, at the precocked postion there is just so so little forward force on that striker to even make a hole in a peace of paper. First of all at the pre cocked position, that striker has to travel a good bit to even reach the breech face, and alof of enertia is lost from just a basically free floating striker.. IMO ur kahr is now IMO not a reliable gun PERIOD.

[Hayduke Lives]

Ok so I just installed the new striker. Same thing as before. It still protrudes beyond the breech
Like I said in my op the amount it protrudes is so little that. I'm not sure it could even reach the primer. Most of you are right as I also suspect that this is no reason for concern. However it is out of spec. and is doing something it shouldn't as far as Kahr's instructions state.
This is a to be my CW for a long time to come. I don't want to take any chances. So I will send it back to Kahr after I talk to them over the Phone Monday.

I know some of you are shocked at the fact I filed down my striker pin. YES I know thats bad for many reasons. I had no intentions of ever leaving it that way. That was done, just so I could take it to the range and fire my new gun.
I have been around guns all my life and I know there is no such thing as being too careful. If I dropped that gun at the range and it did go off and injure someone. I would have to live with the fact that I knew/suspected my gun was unsafe. No Thank You!

I also wanted to try and fix it myself not looking forward to sending my gun back for repair.
I know it's not the firing pin so that only leaves the striker blocker and spacer. If thats not the issue the that would mean the striker channel or striker block cut out were drilled out of spec.

Anyway I'll keep you guys posted and again this has not a bash on Kahr thread. I know these are my only posts here but I only came here for advice. Was kinda hoping some the small amount of striker protrusion was normal.

[muggsy]

For the last time there is nothing wrong with your gun. The striker will not protrude after it has been captured by the cocking cam. It will only protrude after the trigger has been pulled and the gun has been fired. Watch the video of how the gun works until that sinks in. Then go shoot the fokker like you stole it.