Trigger Reset Fail

[Captrigney]

150 rounds at the range today and 4 times the trigger didn't reset. (Pull, no click or bang) Tapped, racked and was good to go.

Is this a software problem (me) or hardware?

The range master suggested perhaps I didn't release the trigger all the way. I'm pretty sure I did. I'm thinking (maybe not so clearly) that I gave it a second try with no click or bang before the tap/rack.

I noticed after cleaning the gun that I had trouble re-assembling the slide to the frame. It seemed to be getting hung up on the front of the guide rod while I was trying to move the slide rearward. Could this have something to do with it perhaps not returning to battery? If it happens again I'll take a closer look at what is going on. In the meantime, is anyone familiar this malfunction?

[jocko]

how about takeing the slide apart and cleaning the striker channel. sometimes some real crud is left in there and it can effect lite strikes/dead trigger. Only u can say if u didn't give the trigger the freedome to reset itself, 4 times out of 150 for break in might be OK but I would give the gun a good cleaning and shoot anutter 150- rounds and watching everything u d and if it reoccurs again, I would email kahr, attn: Jay and state ur case.

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150 rounds at the range today and 4 times the trigger didn't reset. (Pull, no click or bang) Tapped, racked and was good to go.

Is this a software problem (me) or hardware?

The range master suggested perhaps I didn't release the trigger all the way. I'm pretty sure I did. I'm thinking (maybe not so clearly) that I gave it a second try with no click or bang before the tap/rack.

I noticed after cleaning the gun that I had trouble re-assembling the slide to the frame. It seemed to be getting hung up on the front of the guide rod while I was trying to move the slide rearward. Could this have something to do with it perhaps not returning to battery? If it happens again I'll take a closer look at what is going on. In the meantime, is anyone familiar this malfunction?

What model Kahr do you have? I will be interested to hear the replies to this thread as I had a similar problem the other day with my CW45. Out of 50+ rounds using standard Federal 230gr. ball, the trigger failed to reset twice. One of the times I released the trigger and it reset after a fraction of a second delay. The other time was as you described. That being said, I shot my CW45 immediately after shooting my M&P 9C where I can ride the trigger reset. On the Kahr the trigger has to be fully released to reset. For that reason I'm going to try it again on my next range trip, paying careful attention to release the trigger all the way. This has not happened before. My CW45 has been pretty much flawless after at least 1000 rounds through it (even before the frame was replaced due to the "short-rail" issue). Also I am meticulous about cleaning the gun after each range trip, and I blow out the slide hole with compressed air each time, although I have not detail-stripped the slide yet.

[jocko]

What model Kahr do you have? I will be interested to hear the replies to this thread as I had a similar problem the other day with my CW45. Out of 50+ rounds using standard Federal 230gr. ball, the trigger failed to reset twice. One of the times I released the trigger and it reset after a fraction of a second delay. The other time was as you described. That being said, I shot my CW45 immediately after shooting my M&P 9C where I can ride the trigger reset. On the Kahr the trigger has to be fully released to reset. For that reason I'm going to try it again on my next range trip, paying careful attention to release the trigger all the way. This has not happened before. My CW45 has been pretty much flawless after at least 1000 rounds through it (even before the frame was replaced due to the "short-rail" issue). Also I am meticulous about cleaning the gun after each range trip, and I blow out the slide hole with compressed air each time, although I have not detail-stripped the slide yet.

If ur using that slide hole to clean the striker channel and spraying some cleaner i tha thold, I would think that channel is spiffyt clean. Keep an eye on wat ur describing. A 1000 round sshould have been more than enough to get the quyirks out.. Not sayiang user error, I would hope it is though, It is so har dofr kahr to f9ix sumpin that fokks up twicein so many rounds. . Ur ammo should have no bearing on that either. Only takes a 1/4" opf slide travel to cock that striker... Hopefully ur riding the trigger ..

[Antarius]

What cleaner do you guys use in the striker hole? I use Hoppes #9 aerosol.

[deadeye]

Aerosol brake cleaner. Non-chlorinated. My striker channel stays as clean as Pelosi's conscience.

[Antarius]

Ohhhh good idea.

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What cleaner do you guys use in the striker hole? I use Hoppes #9 aerosol.

I just use "air in a can", the same thing used for cleaning computer keyboards, etc. As an aside, I was astonished when I had to show ID at Walmart to purchase this product. Why on earth would compressed air in a can require ID??? Come to find out that teens like to "huff" the aerosol to get high so it's like a controlled substance???!!!

[Antarius]

I just use "air in a can", the same thing used for cleaning computer keyboards, etc. As an aside, I was astonished when I had to show ID at Walmart to purchase this product. Why on earth would compressed air in a can require ID??? Come to find out that teens like to "huff" the aerosol to get high so it's like a controlled substance???!!!

Makes you wonder what asking for an ID will do to prevent me from huffing it. Lol.

[muggsy]

I'd show them my ID and then take a good hit off the can before I left the counter. That would shake 'em up. You wouldn't believe how many times I've been thrown out of Walmart.

[89grand]

Aerosol brake cleaner. Non-chlorinated. My striker channel stays as clean as Pelosi's conscience.

That works great, I use it too.

[Captrigney]

What cleaner do you guys use in the striker hole? I use Hoppes #9 aerosol.

Back on topic, I have to think it is user error (mine, of course) that caused the trigger reset fail. I was shooting groups a bit faster than normal so I may have short stroked the reset.

Back off topic: I'm new to strikers. Would Ballistol be a bad product to use in the striker clean-out hole because it is a CLP (L being Lube)? I've been using Break Free Powder Blast aerosol (I believe it is just a C with no L or P) followed by compressed air.

[AH.74]

Stick with the non-chlorinated brake cleaner or gun scrubber. You want something that will dry and leave no residue.

[Antarius]

Back on topic, I have to think it is user error (mine, of course) that caused the trigger reset fail. I was shooting groups a bit faster than normal so I may have short stroked the reset.

Back off topic: I'm new to strikers. Would Ballistol be a bad product to use in the striker clean-out hole because it is a CLP (L being Lube)? I've been using Break Free Powder Blast aerosol (I believe it is just a C with no L or P) followed by compressed air.

use what you like, but just remember in striker channels you never want any kind of LUBRICANT. So if your cleaner is a cleaner and lube, don't use it in the striker channel.


For for what it's worth, in my other guns (fullsize), I've never cleaned the striker channel and I've never had problems in over 20-40k rounds.

These smaller guns have smaller tolerances and since Kahr provides an easy to use cleaning hole, I clean it.

[Joe A.]

Far as I know, all striker fired pistols require the striker channel to be clear of oil, debri, fouling, etc. Most manuals state "no oil in striker channel. That's why most people use non chlorinated brake cleaner to flush channel clear of oil and debri.

Not doing so can cause light strikes on the primer.