Curious about magazine capacities

[skiflydive]

What I don't believe is that the necessity for a break in reflects a lack of quality control.

Amen!

My CM9 was my very first handgun although I had shot handguns previously. I bought it because it was light and small and because most people spoke highly of it. In the first 100 rounds I had, if I recall, 5 malfunctions. A couple of feed failures and 3 stovepipes. In retrospect I think they were all my fault. Since then the gun has been flawless except for the broken follower. Kahr immediately sent me 2 free replacements. I fixed it with a rampectomy and never had a problem since.

IMHO the break in was the gun breaking me in. It didn't require 200 rounds to be broken in or the springs to take a set - it's cycled perfectly since the first 70-75 rounds. The overly long ramp tang? THAT might have been a quality control issue. It seems Kahr figured that one out and I haven't heard of broken followers in new guns in quite a while.

My entire 40+ working career has been in manufacturing, process, precision machining (.0001" and less), and quality control. Requiring a break in is not a lack of QC.

[Coppertop]

My entire 40+ working career has been in manufacturing, process, precision machining (.0001" and less), and quality control. Requiring a break in is not a lack of QC.

Maybe the lack of QC is the wrong term. Maybe it is just a case that Kahr needs to do more post-production testing or re-think their spring tolerances.

Regardless of how you phrase it, a break in period should be so exhaustive and the burden should not be placed on the consumer.

Personally, I don't think it should be required at all. Right out of the box, a firearm should function with reliability. Yes, there is a break in period for the shooter to get used to the gun but that's entirely different.

Not everyone will agree with me and that's fine. We all don't have to agree with each other and that doesn't mean one person is right and the other is wrong. No matter how much it pisses someone off, it is just a difference of opinions.

[TheTman]

Any semi-auto pistol I own, must achieve a 200 round streak of trouble free shots, before it's considered reliable or carry worthy. I don't care if it's Glock, Beretta, S&W, 200 trouble free rounds is a must.

I don't think Kahr should ever introduce a double stack pistol. The market is flooded with them. What would be the point? They should stick to what they do best, single stack concealable pistols, and strive to make them the best in their class. Kahr would be far from my first choice in a double stack pistol, There are too many other well established brands, that I would choose above a newcomer to the field.

Out of the 4 Kahr pistols I've owned, only 1 was trouble free out of the box. One required a trip back to the factory to get the trigger to function correctly. Another straightened it's self out during break in, and the 4th I never got a chance to shoot before it got traded for some unexpected repairs to my daughters car. All but the one that was trouble free, my first one, I followed the advice on the stickys about prepping a new Kahr. The first one I just cleaned and lubed and went to the range.

[b4uqzme]

really, really sorry I started this.

[Bob T]

Regardless of how you phrase it, a break in period should be so exhaustive and the burden should not be placed on the consumer.

Guess you've never purchased a brand new motorcycle...

Never really considered 200 rounds to be "exhaustive" or a "burden"...That's like what? Two trips to the range or less?

I for one, admire Kahr's honesty in the matter....