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Scary... had my first jam on my CM9 after 600~+ rounds

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  • #16
    Failures are always a possibility, that's why you should train yourself to handle it. Tap, rack bang!
    My friends and I often load each others magazine with a snap cap somewhere to teach fault handling.
    They once loaded me down with three in a row, bunch of clowns. :=)
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    • #17
      600+ rounds?

      Consider replacing recoil springs and try different magazine. Clean gun thoroughly. Lube appropriately.
      Good luck,
      rxs0

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      • #18
        Originally posted by dohcacr View Post
        Wouldn't hurt to polish the feed ramp.
        I can't tell you how many guns have resulted in becoming jamb-o-matics because the previous owner just had to polish the feed ramp. If it's not broken don't fix it.
        Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by muggsy View Post
          I can't tell you how many guns have resulted in becoming jamb-o-matics because the previous owner just had to polish the feed ramp. If it's not broken don't fix it.
          Worse case scenario, replace damaged barrel for $140.80 from Kahr.com.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by muggsy View Post
            I can't tell you how many guns have resulted in becoming jamb-o-matics because the previous owner just had to polish the feed ramp. If it's not broken don't fix it.
            ^^^^^^^^^
            Oh, Yeah!! Guns are like Holley carburetors and Harleys. First thing some one does is "modify" them for better performance. Then complain when they don't work right.

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            • #21
              OP's comments make me wonder if he's done all that much shooting over his lifetime. Never a jam, ever?

              In any event, suggest that he does the magazine test and sanding of the follower, if necessary, at end of first post, 'Proper prep of a new Kahr':

              http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...-of-a-new-kahr

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              Last edited by kahrinca; 08-21-2015, 05:01 PM.

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              • #22
                No mechanical device of any kind is 100% reliable. Clean it ( mag too ) and don't work about it. Always carry a spare Mag they can and do fail.

                If it happens do the malfunction drill.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                  I can't tell you how many guns have resulted in becoming jamb-o-matics because the previous owner just had to polish the feed ramp. If it's not broken don't fix it.
                  Though I may agree with most of this statement, the PMs come from the factory with a polished feed ramp, so the general concensus is to leave it alone with those models.

                  If the CM9 does not come with such a polished feed ramp I would not polish it anyway. OP has gone through 600 rounds until this solitary failure. The FTF may not at all be related to the feed ramp anyway, so I respectfully advise to leave it alone. This sounds more like a magazine issue, and not worth getting in a 'tiss' about it. And I don't believe in that stupid Murphy's Law c*ap*la, besides, that is why tap, rack, bang exists to remedy such problems.

                  Perhaps OP might be better off with the Glock or a Beretta 92FS, for purely psychological reasons.

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                  • #24
                    How many rounds do you think that you'll have to expend to take down the perp. If it's 600, you had better get your ass to the range. Guns can misfire or jamb for a number of reasons. They are mechanical devices made by man. The round itself could have been bad. I have never owned a gun that ran 600 rounds without some sort of failure. That's why I carry a spare and practice the tap rack drill to clear a jammed gun. If you gun only failed once in 600 rounds it's a testament to the quality of the firearm and ammo. I've walked thousands of miles, but occasionally I still stub my toe.
                    Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by kahrinca View Post
                      Though I may agree with most of this statement, the PMs come from the factory with a polished feed ramp, so the general concensus is to leave it alone with those models.

                      If the CM9 does not come with such a polished feed ramp I would not polish it anyway. OP has gone through 600 rounds until this solitary failure. The FTF may not at all be related to the feed ramp anyway, so I respectfully advise to leave it alone. This sounds more like a magazine issue, and not worth getting in a 'tiss' about it. And I don't believe in that stupid Murphy's Law c*ap*la, besides, that is why tap, rack, bang exists to remedy such problems.

                      Perhaps OP might be better off with the Glock or a Beretta 92FS, for purely psychological reasons.
                      totally dissagree, all kahrs come with polished feed ramps, One can enhance any feed ramp with a good in homne polish to, I higly recommend a repolish of any feed ramp on any firearm PERIOD. Ur not removing any metal. Kahr doesn't skimp on he polisibng of therir feed ramps. they are some of the best looking finished raps I have seen on any semi auto, but not to say one wil not slip by not polished enough. U don't hav eto get carreid away with this eitger, a dremel with a cotton polishing cone and some flitz or fine compound will make it shine like a diamone in a goats ass. I would recomment a chamber polish also, Most of the dremel polishing cones will fit right in the chammbe rof the 9mm. Muggsy is right IMO on the malfunction thing. alot of variables in a malfuncion and the gun gets b alamed for it every time. Bad rounds are common, more than we think, piss poor maintenance on ones firearm varies with each individual. LIMP WRISTING is not a MYTH, Recoil springs, mag springs etc striker springs are things that are made to be replaced, and if u don't set up a system to make these changes, then the gun in time will let u know that sumpin is not right. Sometimes a small notebook with each gun you own and a date when ut did certain things wil help refresh ur mind to. One can't remember everything, unless ur ol jocko who never forgets a thing,m but I have had some preventative maintence to. I am on my 3rd brin, 4th heart, same pecker, (u don't mess with perfection). thank you, Juest sayin

                      Glad to see your poosting Muggsy, even though u never make sense, it makes the forum feel better knowing ur here.
                      . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                      • #26
                        Jocko- Though I was not the originator of the 'jam-o-matic' comment, the problem is that people on occasion do remove metal from the feed ramp.

                        We agree to disagree- I just don't believe it necessary to polish a feed ramp that has already been polished to my satisfaction at the factory.

                        'Thank you' for the 'Proper Prep of a new Kahr' thread here. I've found it very helpful, especially the 'Magazine Fix' at the end of the first post. I never would've thought of doing it.

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                        • #27
                          If your gun jammed after 600 rounds the only things that I would consider changing are the mag and recoil springs. I have a few thousand through my CM9 and it goes bang every time I pull the trigger.
                          Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                            If your gun jammed after 600 rounds the only things that I would consider changing are the mag and recoil springs. I have a few thousand through my CM9 and it goes bang every time I pull the trigger.
                            unless one owns a GLOCK and as you know and read GLOCKS NEVER MALFUNCTION. I calledmy local gun dealer and ask about a price on a spare G43 recoil spring. He said 73$. I told him I just want the recoil spring and not the entire gun, he said that is for the spring. Muggsy u seem to have some pull in Cleveland, the home town of the loser Cleveland Browns, see if u can find me one for 30$.Just sayin
                            . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by muggsy View Post
                              If your gun jammed after 600 rounds the only things that I would consider changing are the mag and recoil springs. I have a few thousand through my CM9 and it goes bang every time I pull the trigger.
                              If this happened to me I wouldn't even consider changing any springs where 599 trigger pulls out of 600 resulted in a 'bang'.

                              Without evidence of recurring problems, I'd just consider it an anomaly.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by kahrinca View Post
                                If this happened to me I wouldn't even consider changing any springs where 599 trigger pulls out of 600 resulted in a 'bang'.

                                Without evidence of recurring problems, I'd just consider it an anomaly.
                                +1. I'd see how the next 600 go.
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