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  • #16
    Originally posted by muggsy View Post
    Jeez yer gettin' long winded in yer old age, Jocko.
    I would make a comment to that but my wife told me to be nice to sick people. Just sayin

    Most Italians are long winded *******.
    . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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    • #17
      That's because the talk while waving their hands. Your only saving grace is that once in awhile you know what yer talking about.
      Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Pacn45 View Post
        As explained to me by a police shooting instructor. Right hand shooter hitting low/left with short stack (5/6 round mag) pistol, caused by over squeezing bottom of grip during application of trigger. This increasing squeeze pulls bottom of grip deeper into palm thus pulling barrel down = low shot. Inadvertent increased closing of hand pushes barrel left = left shot. Opposite flexing by left handed shooter results in low/right shot placement. To correct, two hand grip, strong hand knuckles placed on inside balls of knuckles of weak hand and middle knuckles of strong hand placed against the inside heal of weak hand palm. Finger tips of weak hand should be pressing in on back of strong hand. Thumb of weak hand placed at the top front corner of the trigger guard and applying pressure against frame. Now slightly bend elbows and as you establish your sight picture pull straight back with the weak hand and push forward with strong hand. The push/ pull stops the changing of grip pressure as trigger is pulled. The placement of the weak hand palm over the top of the strong hand fingers gives a naturally squared alignment of the pistol with the eye to target line. And finally the weak hand thumb pushing against the weapon frame at the front top of the trigger guard prevents the curling of the gun as the trigger finger moves back into the strong hand palm.

        I know this all sounds weird and awkward but when the instructor showed me this my 10 yard shots started falling either on or within one inch of center. Oh, and that was shooting a PM 45 with 230 gr factory target loads for my concealed carry permit. Once I practiced this grip for a little while my shooting improved with all caliber pistols I shoot.
        He must be an old school instructor, because that's how I was taught. Here's the new school approach.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJrA7wMXuuQ
        Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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        Colt Gold Cup 70 series
        Colt Woodsman
        Ruger Mark III .22-45
        Kahr CM9
        Kahr P380

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        • #19
          My coach/instructor/friend taught me push/pull on my P345 and it works. I think the video shows the same thing but he doesn't mention push/pull even though he probably does it. On my PM45 I have less grip issues and shoot tighter groups than the Ruger.
          Sent from the ethers by magic.
          Archeologists have discovered that ancient people loved to drink from broken cups.

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