Is this normal for PM9?

[voltman]

I've had this PM9 for many years. It has always had a rough action, and snappy recoil. I've always just accepted it.

Recently, when hand cycling, here is what I notice.

Without the mag, hand cycling the slide, the slide hits 2 distinct hard bumps. First is the front top of the barrel as the flat area rides under the slide chamber edge.

Next if I pull the trigger (fire the striker), and in the same movement, hold the trigger back while pulling back on the slide- there is a solid hard bump that the slide must pass in order to cyle fully back- this occurs about a 1/4 " of slide movement, and only if the trigger is held back after firing the striker the first time.

[CPTKILLER]

Not really.

[CJB]

I will give ten dollars for it!

[muggsy]

Neither condition is normal. Contact Kahr service and explain the situation to them. The should issue you a RA# (return authorization number) and repair the gun for you. If you are the original owner they will probably repair it at no charge.

[yqtszhj]

The second bump you are referring to is likely the slide pushing down the trigger bar as it moves rearward. When firing a round you wouldn't notice it but when hand cycling the slide you can feel it. That second bump can be more noticeable on some than others based on what I knotice with my kahrs. It's never caused a function issue.

How many rounds havd you fired over the years and have you had any malfunctions?

[voltman]

Not my favorite gun to shoot- I've fired over 500 rounds and the slide movment is sluggish- tends to hesistate on the return. I am the Original owner.

What's Kahr's reputation for "ease" of Cust service and timeliness?

[muggsy]

In my experience Kahr Service has been excellent. Others may not have shared my experience. I've found that more often than not people treat you as you treat them. My advice would be to contact Kahr Service and explain the situation and see what they offer. You don't have anything to lose.

[b4uqzme]

I've had this PM9 for many years. It has always had a rough action, and snappy recoil. I've always just accepted it.

Recently, when hand cycling, here is what I notice.

Without the mag, hand cycling the slide, the slide hits 2 distinct hard bumps. First is the front top of the barrel as the flat area rides under the slide chamber edge.

Next if I pull the trigger (fire the striker), and in the same movement, hold the trigger back while pulling back on the slide- there is a solid hard bump that the slide must pass in order to cyle fully back- this occurs about a 1/4 " of slide movement, and only if the trigger is held back after firing the striker the first time.

I felt kinda bad because I've never attempted either of the manipulations you describe so I cannot answer normal or not. All I know is, if the slide locks back as it should and releases OK, and if the gun shoots OK when you pull the trigger, and if it ejects OK and cycles the next round, then that's normal. Hope yours is the same. Thanks.

[Alfonse]

I've had this PM9 for many years. It has always had a rough action, and snappy recoil. I've always just accepted it.

Recently, when hand cycling, here is what I notice.

Without the mag, hand cycling the slide, the slide hits 2 distinct hard bumps. First is the front top of the barrel as the flat area rides under the slide chamber edge.

Next if I pull the trigger (fire the striker), and in the same movement, hold the trigger back while pulling back on the slide- there is a solid hard bump that the slide must pass in order to cyle fully back- this occurs about a 1/4 " of slide movement, and only if the trigger is held back after firing the striker the first time.

About half of my Kahrs do your second bump and they all do the first to some extent. It doesn't seem to bother a thing. I have plenty of PM9s, so I can only offer $20.

[voltman]

I have plenty of $10 and $20 bills, but no $500 bills-- so I'll take one of those.

Let me rephrase the question, keep it simple:

PM9
empty gun, chamber
Cock the striker
Fire the striker and hold the trigger back
Pull the slide

Does your slide have to overcome a bump? Yes or no

[Alfonse]

I have plenty of $10 and $20 bills, but no $500 bills-- so I'll take one of those.

Let me rephrase the question, keep it simple:

PM9
empty gun, chamber
Cock the striker
Fire the striker and hold the trigger back
Pull the slide

Does your slide have to overcome a bump? Yes or no

Yes, so much so I have to ease the trigger a bit to get it to go over. It isn't just a PM9, but both K9s, an MK9 and I think the CW380.

[hardluk1]

This is how mine feels .

Trigger forward , rack the slide one bump . Trigger back and rack, no bump just a little normal mechanical feel

Snappy recoil is standard with cm/pm 9 and very more so with +P !!

[gb6491]

I've had this PM9 for many years. It has always had a rough action, and snappy recoil. I've always just accepted it.

Recently, when hand cycling, here is what I notice.

Without the mag, hand cycling the slide, the slide hits 2 distinct hard bumps. First is the front top of the barrel as the flat area rides under the slide chamber edge.

Next if I pull the trigger (fire the striker), and in the same movement, hold the trigger back while pulling back on the slide- there is a solid hard bump that the slide must pass in order to cyle fully back- this occurs about a 1/4 " of slide movement, and only if the trigger is held back after firing the striker the first time.

Could be the lobe on the cocking cam that lifts the striker block is too long/high): http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...743#post354743
While I fixed this on my pistol by swapping striker blocks and AFDoc sent his back to Kahr, I believe someone on the board (CJB?) just took some material of the lobe.
Regards,
Greg

[Alfonse]

Could be the lobe on the cocking cam that lifts the striker block is too long/high): http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.p...743#post354743
While I fixed this on my pistol by swapping striker blocks and AFDoc sent his back to Kahr, I believe someone on the board (CJB?) just took some material of the lobe.
Regards,
Greg

That is exactly what is going on with some of my pistols. However, it doesn't seem to bother anything, so I have just left them alone.

[gb6491]

That is exactly what is going on with some of my pistols. However, it doesn't seem to bother anything, so I have just left them alone.

Same with mine, but once it was brought to my attention (and the striker block swap worked to the good on both pistols) I'm glad to have it fixed. Perhaps, if it's more severe in other cases (such AFDoc's pistol), I could see it affecting the slide cycling.
Regards,
Greg