2nd Range Trip with My PM9

[white cloud]

I wonder why these pistols are not more popular. They have excellent sights, reliability and trigger pull and hold more ammo than any J Frame S&W. I am not bashing J Frames either. I have several but can shoot the CM9 much better. Mine has been 100% reliable from day one and that is getting to be a few years ago.

[yqtszhj]

I couldn't be more pleased with my little Kahr at this point, and can't imagine a better 9mm EDC anywhere near this profile.

p.s. And the trigger keeps getting better and better. I had the chance to shoot Kimbers, Springfields, Glocks, etc etc today, and the Kahr really stands out in the crowd in that regard...as smooth as it is, you'd swear that I'd sent this pistol away for custom trigger work.

Oh, Kahr, where have you been all my life?!?!

Exactly. The CM9 has been my pocket carry since cool weather set in and its the summer gun if I'm wearing jeans. Only light shorts cause me to go to my J frame for pocket carry.

[yqtszhj]

I wonder why these pistols are not more popular. They have excellent sights, reliability and trigger pull and hold more ammo than any J Frame S&W. I am not bashing J Frames either. I have several but can shoot the CM9 much better. Mine has been 100% reliable from day one and that is getting to be a few years ago.

I think Kahr gets a bad rep from the few problems people have but in my opinion their 9mm are the best single stack out there. They led the way with the K, MK, P, and PM series before others did and now we get to reap the benefits in the CW and CM series.

I actually got rid of my last Glock this past weekend with no regrets. I had more failures with the G19 than I ever have had with any of my 3 Kahr 9mm's (which has been NO FAILURES). Now I do still have 3 XD's that have never failed but they are a different platform than the Kahr.

[white cloud]

You are probably correct about the bad rep but it doesn't seem fair. I have two SIGs that I really like. They cost 2.5 as much as the Kahr. These have been flawless but so has my CM9. I am an older shooter and have carried a J Frame for a very long time. I think there is a certain old school coolness about them but the CM9 would be at least twice the gun if the chips were down.

[boscobarbell]

I think the whole "200 round break-in" plays a role in Kahr's relative reputation compared to Glock, Sig, etc. Most shooters don't have the patience for a gun that won't run 100% guaranteed out of the box, and would rather pay the money up front rather than spend the additional $$$ for range fees and ammo.

Me? I sorta like a pistol that grows better with a little age. As great as my PM9 was out of the box, it is SO much nicer now, and I feel a certain pride in achieving that. Then again, I had the luxury of lots of ammo, cheap range availability, and other guns I could EDC until I got this one right. Not all shooters have those advantages.

[jg rider]

Please let me get my $.02 in. I've worked on a total of 8 K & PM 9's to allow reliable sling shoting and do away with the 200 rnd. break in. The 2 most important Kahrs to work on were my wife's K & PM 9. Because of arthritic hands, she has trouble pulling back the slides all the way. I strongly believe the problems are the extractors for going into battery. That's why some can sling shot and some can't. I mod the mags also. I haven't found a round that our Kahr mags won't feed.

I've modded the extractors and mags for her 2 Kahrs, my K & PM 9's, my son's PM9, and 3 others. My final test is to insert a fully loaded mag, pull the slide back just far enough to get just behind the case rim and release for a controlled feed. The slide can be pulled back an additional 1/4" or more, but I don't bother testing from there.

Also we chamber the first round by locking the slide back dropping a round in and then releasing the slide. No damage to our original 2001 extractors. For this, my test is releasing the slide by pulling it back and riding it forward a bit and then release it. In most cases the extractor will hop over the case rim and go into battery. The times it doesn't all it takes is a light tap with the palm.

This is what works for me.

[dustnchips]

After cleaning I always load my PM9 and CW 380 by dropping a round in the chamber and releasing the slide lock and then inserting a full mag. It has always worked and I've never had a problem with the extractors.

[bugs]

to add to Boscobarbells' post, they're unwilling to put in extra time to refine basic the skills little guns require. put in the range time and good results will follow.

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