Modified A&G Grip Extension PM9

[gagnejs8]

Those look awesome. I'd also be in line if you did it in your spare time after work! If you don't mind sharing how you did it, someone here may have the time or desire to tinker in their basements after work!

[Ol'coot]

First, thanks to all of you for the very nice comments as I take a lot of pride in my craftsmanship and it is always nice to get positive comments from your peers.

Now to reply to those requesting a modified A&G extension. The modification to the A&G extension looks great on the gun but in reality is very flimsy after the modification as the modification takes a portion of it down to a very thin less than a 1/32 thick and it would not hold up very long with mag changes. I do however keep it on my PM9 all of the time just for the improvement in appearance and if it were to fail it would not affect the function of the weapon. I do not use it while practicing at the range more than firing one full mag through it each trip. This the reason why I wanted to make my own design from the ground up. My design attaches to the magazine in a different manner that make it very strong. It does not just slip down on top of the magazine as I do not like this method at all but attaches in a manner similar to a normal base plate.

I have not completely abandon this project it just has been placed on the back burner until I can find a cheaper method to tool it and then be very creative with funding the tool development. I am looking into what I can do to reduce the complexity of the part design and thus reduce the tooling cost

Sorry but I cannot take on the task of modifying the A&G extensions as I truly believe that none you would not be happy with a modified one and I would not put my name on what I believe is an inferior product. If I can find a way to reduce the initial upfront cost for tooling to the point of even breaking even with a 100 part run I may move forward again as I think I can move 100 of these pretty quickly from the overwhelming response I have seen on the forum. There are some other rapid prototype processes available that I am looking into that do not require as much upfront cost but the per piece cost does go up. Once I have a firm cost for this type of venture I may make a one time run . I will keep everyone informed if I can find a way to move forward.

[72guy]

Tony,
We're not Aholes, we're just persistent. ;-)
Can you share with us the upfront dollar figure that you're looking at to cover the tooling costs?
I, for one, would be more than willing to make a donation to Tony's Tooling Fund. Let the interested Forum members absorb your startup expenses and then you are free from the financial risk and burden. We realize that there is still a cost involved with your time. And only you can put a dollar figure on that. If you end up collecting enough money to get this thing rolling. Then all is good. If the funds fall short of what is needed. Take the collected money and make a charitable donation, to the charity of your choice, under the name of KahrTalk. Remember, strength in numbers.

Regards

[bigmacque]

I'd buy a couple from you ol coot, name a price.

[bigmacque]

I'm with 72guy on that suggestion, too. I'd be looking for PM9 mags. I'd pay you for the mags, the extensions, a markup, plus the work, in addition to contributing to some startup expenses.

[MBFD]

I started reading about this mag complaint from another thread that referred to this thread and I'm saying to myself yes, yes, oh hell yes that's just what I want.
That's the way my Kahr SHOULD look.
I'm in for at least two.
Not going to be made - ahh crap.

Now this thread kind of begs the question - why the hell doesn't Kahr sell their mags looking just like this. I'm sure they have heard from many unhappy Kahr owners.
Kahr could probably make it even thinner with a slight tang for the second finger.

[TL1852]

Now that is the kind of mag I want on my PM9. Looks great. Maybe Kahr will get the message and offer one in place of that sorry looking thing they provide.

[G3709]

One possibility is for A&G to produce this gip extension with a higher sidewall that then should cover the exposed stainless steel section. The K9 polymer base plate does have higher sidewall to cover that exposed part.

[gagnejs8]

One possibility is for A&G to produce this gip extension with a higher sidewall that then should cover the exposed stainless steel section. The K9 polymer base plate does have higher sidewall to cover that exposed part.

Try finding this company anywhere. No website. I've looked into trying to contact them but if I recall the only thing I could find was a PO box somewhere in NH.

[G3709]

To gagnejs8, I am sorry that I miss the maker of Pearce grip extension. Pearce and A&G both produce grip extension for Kahr. If we all could write to Pearce may be we can persuade Pearce to change the design to higher sidewall. I have a Pearce grip extension and it looks the same as A&G's.

[tohotim]

The fact that Kahr or another aftermarket firm has not picked up on this opportunity since 2010 is pretty amazing... short math on just the cost of the 'polymer' material has to be fractions of .01. CAD or CNC Tooling < $10K and a potential price point of +/- $25, maybe $30-40 because Kahr owners are just willing to pay more.. considering what Taran has done for the G43. Then again, how long did it take Glock to come out with the G43.

Angel investors standing by with proof of concept...