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  • New PM9, and new to KahrTalk!

    Hi there guys! I am a new Kahr owner, and thought I'd post an introductory post.

    After more reading and research that I care to admit (much of it on this very forum), I am a proud new owner of a PM9 (PM9094NA). That's an all black PM9 with night sights, for those that have not done as much reading as me.

    After bringing it home, I did a field strip of the gun to familiarize myself with it, and to remove the factory lubrication, and reoil with some Weapon Shield. Man, did the factory lubrication stink! My gun had a top notch case of B.O.! That was quickly dispatched with the initial cleaning. Then it was off to the range for some gun break-in fun!

    I put 200 rounds of my 115gr reloads down the pipe, as well as a half box of Ranger 124gr +P, all without a hiccup! Well, no FTE or FTF to speak of, but I did have each of the factory mags fail to lock the slide back after the last round was fired one time each. This was within the first four full mags, so maybe I was riding the slide release? Who knows?! The problem was gone after the first few mags so it seems to have corrected itself. I attribute that to operator malfunction, not gun malfunction!

    After 100 rounds, I did a field strip of the gun to look for anything unusual with wear. After a quick wipe down, that revealed nothing out of the ordinary, and a few more drops of Weapon Shield, I was back on the firing line for the next 100 rounds. Man, this thing is fun to shoot, albeit a tad snappy with the +P rounds.

    I will say, that my groups good, but not great, and were centered high and right buy about 2" each way. This was unusual for me, as I'm right handed. Again, this could certainly be due to my inexperience with this gun, or the fact that it is the smallest 9mm that I own, in every dimension measurable. After wrapping up my range session, I brought it home for it's first real cleaning. Everything looked as expected, and the cleaning went without issue.

    Upon reassembly, and doing a final wipe down before putting it to bed, I noticed that the rear night sight is slightly off to the right. Now, we're not talking a lot, but far enough that its noticeable without the use of magnification, or a measuring instrument. This could certainly have contributed to my "inaccuracy" but I won't be doing any adjustments to the rear sight until I get more rounds down the pipe, and allow some others to shoot it. If they shoot off to the right, and I continue to do the same, then maybe a minute adjustment to the rear sight will be in order. Can that be accomplished with a brass punch, or is a sight pusher required? Remember, I have the night sights, and don't want to damage the lenses. I can't see myself buying a $100+ sight tool at this point, so maybe a trip to the 'smith will be in order?

    Again, I wanted to thank you guys for the great forum resource you have here at KahrTalk. I hope I can contribute something worthwhile in the future.

    Shoot safely!
    -Steve

    <If a moderator could kindly move this post to the PM section, I'd appreciate it! Doh!>
    Last edited by Sliebl; 02-07-2011, 06:21 PM. Reason: Posted in wrong forum

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    I would think you can push it over with a brass punch. go slow. put some duct tape on the punch nose or on the sight base so as to not damage it. If you want to spray alittlle penetrating type oil on that sight dovetail, it can't do anything but help. Kahrs sights are tight, very tight, but maybe in your case being they installed night sights on the gun, it might just move easier. I think I would shoot it some more to but being a rightie, normaly your shots should be low and left with kahrs until you get the hang of the looong but smooth trigger system. I being a lefty have my groups where yours are at.

    I had to buy a sight pusher for my sights, as when I got the xs sights installed by kahr I didn't want to damage them by moving them to much. I did at one time alot of moving left and right and then back again left and right until I settled down myself and now my sights are just a tad to the left and I just quit trying to move them to offset my bad shooting day, as I knew it was me and not the gun. Also being your were shooting reloads and not getting slide lock, could have been maybe light enough loads that was not allowing the slide to lock open. If this ssue pops back up, try shooting fmj American brand ammo. Sometimes as u stated just more rounds down range seems to straighten piddly issues out. The only thing that locks that slide open is the magazine follower picking up the slide release, something has to cause that and one of them is a person thumb in the wrong position, weak magazine springs and in this case the gun is new, so that should not be an issue, but you mgiht want to check to make sure the magazine springs are in correclty to. It has happened before.

    If you ever order any replacement mag springs, I would advise going to the wolffs gunspring site and ordering the 5% extra magazine strength springs. Makes loading no harder but just gives that follower alittle more ump on that last round. Timing is all important in a semi auto and magazine lock is part of correct timing to. too light a load can sometimes cause it, normaly any factory round has enough ump.

    welcome aboard, a very nice first report IMO, the more u shoot that gun the more you will fall more in love with it. They are super shooters, just take your time, practice close, keep it at 7 yards and under, if u can't hit great at 7 yards, why move further back??? for me 10 yards is about as far back as I go, before my accuracy goes all to hell . Just me, not the gun.
    . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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    MAY GOD BLESS MUGGSY

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    • #3
      Welcome! I shoot my friends PM9 and find it to be an outstanding pistol. I agree with Jocko that 10 yards is my max for keeping my rounds in the realm of 10 x 10 inches. Kahr makes a stellar carry pistol that is reliable, thin, light and very compact!

      Shoot safe yourself,

      -- Richard
      "A gentleman will seldom, if ever, need a pistol. However, if he does, he needs it very badly!" -- Sir Winston Churchill

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      • #4
        Welcome from another noob. I don't know what the "nights" look like but I'll assume they're 3-dot, correct? I ask only because I have the same gun with standard sights. My first shot was high because I tried to line everything up. I was about 3" high. Then, I learned to cover the point with the front sight, and actually have its "dot" ride the top of the rear vertical....like a lollipop. The remaining shots were in a 3" cluster at 7 yds. Sight looks like this (sort of)
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        I'd have Kahr pay the freight for the ride back home and let them fix your rear sight.

        I now have 300 of American Eagle and Blazer Brass through mine. I've had one FTF. I think it was because I didn't have the round fully seated in the mag and it took a nosedive on the way in. I re-seated it and had no further issues.

        Enjoy and welcome.

        bj

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        • #5
          Hi Steve: I have found Kahrtalk to be a great group of knowledgable people willing to share what they've learned. I traded my P380 for a PM9 and took it out for the first time today. 100 rounds of Federal FMJ followed by 50 rounds of Federal Classic 9bp hollowpoints. Not a single problem. Welcome aboard.

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          • #6
            Welcome to Kahrtalk. I don't qwn a pm9 my self but I've read lots of posts on it in here. I think your going to really like it.
            There are some very knowledgeable pm9 owners here, should you have any concerns or issues with yours.

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            • #7
              Thanks for the warm welcome, guys!

              I really don't see the point in sending the slide back to Kahr for this adjustment. If the sight was falling off the slide, or damaged in some way, it would be on its way back already. But, for an adjustment like this, I'll handle it myself, or worst case have a local smith take care of it.

              I'll report back once I get more rounds down the pipe!

              Cheers!
              Steve

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              • #8
                * UPDATE *

                My wife and I put another, trouble-free, 150 rounds through the PM9 today. These were a mix of my Berry's plated, and Montana Gold JHP reloads. It ate them all up and didn't complain at all.

                Today we were shooting outside at steel plates, from varying distances (approximately 15-50'). This little gun is quite accurate for its size! I can't comment on my rear sight being off after today's session, as ringing the plates is not the same as shooting at paper.

                Since my first post, I've purchased an MTAC Minotaur IWB holster, and a Remora holster. Both are really nice, and I'd buy them both again in a heart beat. My wife also has a Remora for her Bodyguard 380 and loves the flexibility that holster affords her with different carry positions. Not to mention the owner, Alan, is a great guy to deal with.

                More updates to come!

                Shoot safely,
                Steve

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                • #9
                  Wecome Steve. I am new on KahrTalk too and a new PM9 shooter as well. Mine is black with the standard sights. May opt for the XS Big Dot at some point.
                  Bill

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                  • #10
                    Thanks, Willieboy.
                    My PM9 is my first pistol with night sights, and certainly won't be my last, as my wife really likes them! She's a keeper!

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                    • #11
                      Anything we can do to please "those who cook" is always a good idea.
                      Bill

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Willieboy View Post
                        Anything we can do to please "those who cook" is always a good idea.
                        You mean some people actually have wives that cook?

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