CM9 mag splitting?

[FSuperDuty]

Hey guys,
Finally got me a CM9 this past friday and went to the range this afternoon. I'll post more details at another point, but suffice to say I really like shooting this little guy, it's turning out to be exactly the carry gun I've been looking for. 250 rounds FMJ, one FTF around 80 rounds, otherwise great; then 8 SD hollow points (Winchester PDX1 Supreme Elite or something like that).
However I noticed that the mag was tight from the get go. Would not drop sometimes. I ignored it, figured something would need to break-in. Then I noticed after I got home that the mag appears to be coming apart. See attached pic the sides of the mag are separating from the back, near the top. Don't think this is normal? I'll be calling Kahr in the morning. :israel:

Otherwise did I mention I really like this little guy? Not the handful I was expecting, especially with the Hogue Handall Jr on it.

[MikeyKahr]

Congrats on the CM9, FSuperDuty. Glad to hear you're a happy camper and that the CM9 ran so well for you. As for the mag, definitely not normal - a call to Kahr is in order. The pic would be good to get to them too, I've had really quick turnaround time with Kahr CS through the e-mail. Hope they make it right - my guess is a new magazine will be on it's way to you Tuesday at the latest.

[Longitude Zero]

Get it replaced. Kahr mags are some of the highest quality I have ever seen. Occasionally a klanger slips thru. Kahr will make it good.

[yqtszhj]

Something is wrong with the steel on that one. Almost like the specs were off on the stainless and the steel was too brittle. I don't know if they heat this or not.

Maybe someone dunked that one in some water after the weld was done on the back of the mag.

[FSuperDuty]

Well.. I called Customer Service. Not what I was expecting, but I think things will still work out fine. They told me to mail it in and they'd send me a new one. Not wanting to be without the use of the CM9, I ordered a spare mag online (BudsGunShop.com) and now that it's here I'm sending my defective mag to Kahr tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes but they indicated they would replace it. I was hoping they they'd just send me one, but oh well.

Anyhoo I'd post a range report but it would be yet another boring one. I followed the break-in procedures in the FAQ and had not one problem with the CM. Very happy with it!

[jocko]

bad material. I have seen a few in the past. I had a P380 mag that did that, same place. They replaced it and I have never had it occur again.They had a rash of those mag busting on the P380 in the beginning and then it just went away, so it leads me to believe bad stainless material.

kahr doesn't make their mags, they are american made but I am sure that kahr would not know there is a problem with the mags until it actually occurs and I am very sure they will stand 100% behind them to.

u did the right thing in ordering a spare mag anyhow, every semi should have two magazines..

[les strat]

They should mail you one out no questions asked. You could mail them a photo of the mag by your CM9 with the serial number showing.

[knkali]

I am going through this as we speak with my P40 mag. Same reply...send it in and we will replace it. Sending it today. I bet the subcontractor eats these not Kahr and that is why they want them back.

[jocko]

ur right, not kahrs total loss, and the origibnal makerr should eat um, IMO

[FSuperDuty]

Hey guys, just to follow up, received a new mag in the mail. Thanks Kahr!

[bonjorno2]

good to hear

[JimC]

I shot my PM9 yesterday for the first time.

http://www.kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=7755

Long story short, I had two Kahr mags split in the same manner that yours did. I contacted Kahr CS when I got home but the CS guy would not just replace my mags, I have to send them the pistol and the two bad mags in to them for evaluation.
They e-mailed me a FedEx call tag yesterday. I will drop the pistol off at FedEx this AM.

[jocko]

no

I am going through this as we speak with my P40 mag. Same reply...send it in and we will replace it. Sending it today. I bet the subcontractor eats these not Kahr and that is why they want them back.

doubt thatis true.I just kinda wish they would let a new owner know whether it is indeed a badbatchof metal or if something in some guns is causing this to happen.. Something to me has to be serious wrong with the metal to see such NEW magazines go to hell like that.
These are stainless magazine, certainly not thin as paper when u look at them or try to squeeze them. They are strong and to split like that.

[JimC]

I've been around this shootin' game a long time involving many different brands of guns and mags, both in civilian life and LE life.

This Kahr problem isn't anything new to semi-auto firearms and the mags that they use and I don't think any of this comes as a surprise to Kahr.

The problem that I have is with the MSRP of most of their firearms being what they are, they should be trouble free right out of the box.

Now I know most of you don't want to hear this but...I've NEVER had a 40% failure (2 out of 5) as I did with my Kahr mags when using Glock mags and they cost a lot less than Kahr mags.

I've seen 25-30 brand new Glock pistols right out of the boxes on an LE recruit line go trouble free thru 900+ rds. each over the course or 4.5 days. The only possible problem(s) were the shooters themselves, not the guns or the mags.

[wyntrout]

This kind of thing is rare, but it does happen. My PM45 did that one day, destroying 4 out of 6 mags... 4 different kinds, bought at different times, so not one bad batch. I figured the other two were overstressed and going to fail, too, in fact one had already started when I looked closely.

I sent the gun and all 6 mags in. They duplicated the failures and could only stop it with a new frame. So maybe your is the same way and you'll get a new frame if that's what it takes. You'll at least get your magazines replaced and Kahr will get to see what the heck's happening.

It sucks, but they'll make it right.

Wynn