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  • My PM9 vs. my new Ruger LC9

    I made an impulse buy while on vacation. The LC9 was actually in stock and the sales guy was knowledgeable and helpful. Who am I to hold onto my money? Keep the economy moving, I say! $375 (before 6% sales tax) seemed a fair price.

    The immediate drawback you notice is that it comes with one mag. Of course, as readers here know, so does Kahr's CM9. From a price perspective, the CM9 is a more fair comparison, alas, I only own the PM9 with Night Sights. A secondary drawback is that it comes in a cheap cardboard box. No problem, I never use OEM plastic cases anyway; simply because I take 3 to 6 guns to the range per trip. There is a nice sleeve type 'case' with bold Ruger / LC9 graphics.

    My initial impression was very favorable. The gun was properly oiled from the factory and did not show signs of preservative or heavy grease. I shot it like I stole it from round #1. I did load the mag and lock the gun open for 12 hours before shooting. No degreasing, racking the slide, shooting with gloves etc. It was flawless for a box of American Eagle 115 gr FMJ. It was much more user friendly in this early stage of break-in. It is easier to handle in every way. Mags load easier. The slide is easy to rack without needing to use the release lever (this usually goes away in PM9s, at least mine did). It is easier to field strip but a tool is needed the first few times.

    Fit and finish is excellent. Same as I found with the SR9c I owned. The mag drops freely, unlike my PM9.

    The other negatives are:

    the sights are not NS, nor are they as easy to use as my PM9.

    the trigger, while smooth as glass, is longer than "War and Peace". Yes, it even beats out Kahr for length of pull.

    Some will say the LCI and lawyer lock are negatives. I don't even see the LCI in use. It's just is making a mountain out of an ant hill to criticize this.

    There is also a mag disconnect. I am on the fence on this one. I disabled it on my SR9c but it was not a carry gun. The LC9 is not nearly as easy to "fix". I personally will not attempt it. I occasionally need to lock my gun in my car. I will take the mag with me but never liked unchambering that last round. Now I won't need to and still know if it is stolen, it can't be immediately used.

    The safety is something I want. This one is unique and should satisfy those who think it excessive on a DAO gun. It sweeps "off" easily. Setting it on takes 5x the effort. I need two hands. It will NEVER set it self 'on', therefore, don't let it be a deal breaker if you are interested in this gun.

    I also like the 7+1 configuration which is stock. Felt recoil is slightly less than the PM9.

    The jury is out on accuracy. This is in part the trigger pull and the sights. YMMV. More as I shoot the next 200 rounds.
    Last edited by Rainman48314; 07-05-2011, 06:19 PM. Reason: one more big positive

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    never read war and peace, but a longer trigger than a kahr, wow...

    sounds like a good gun by Ruger..
    . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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    • #3
      Damn near as long as "The W.W.Grainger Catalog" !!!

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      • #4
        prunes anyone?

        Originally posted by CJB View Post
        Damn near as long as "The W.W.Grainger Catalog" !!!
        I remember a short cut called Cliff Notes. Is there one for Grainger? I may send my tattered copy of Cliif Notes re W&P to Jocko. Great bathroom reading on a 'slow' day. LOL.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the report, I've been considering an LC9 vs CM9 for my next CCW....

          Rainman.....Any chance you can get some side by side pics up.....please
          -The Destroyer Approaches
          eyes to the south

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          • #6
            Originally posted by PaiN View Post
            Thanks for the report, I've been considering an LC9 vs CM9 for my next CCW....

            Rainman.....Any chance you can get some side by side pics up.....please
            Can you direct me to the instructions (sticky) for uploading pics? Do I need a Flikr type account somewhere?

            I can tell you the size difference is negligible in all directions but width. The LC9 sure looks slimmer.

            Have you tried this? There is a feature to select guns to compare >>

            http://www.genitron.com/HandgunDB/DB...t-Handguns.asp

            They are both good guns for CC. The Kahrs strike me as needing lots of tinkering and more gun savy by and from the the owner. Fortunately, there is plenty of help here. The Ruger is ready out of the box AND support will include shipping costs both directions w/o begging or pleading. I for one will never spend $50 to get 'free' warranty work. I have a problem with Kahr on that.

            Today I shot the PM9 better than I ever have since I bought it. I did not shoot the LC9 very well but it was its first 50 rounds. My aging eyes, the subdued lighting and small dots on the Ruger all contribute. At bad breath distance, it will not matter, and, one could add a laser or improve the LC9 sights. The LC9 has a nice melt job and fit and finish is better. For example, the mag drops, the average shooter can rack the slide right out of the box.

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            • #7
              Go to Photobucket, create a free account and follow instructions to upload pictures from your computer (very simple). Then, to put a picture in a forum post, put the cursor over the picture in Photobucket. A menu appears. Move the cursor to the Direct link field and click. It automatically copies the link to your paste buffer. Go back to where you are editing the post, click the icon to add a picture, and do Ctrl/v to paste the link in. The picture will show up in your post.
              Very interesting...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JFootin View Post
                Go to Photobucket, create a free account and follow instructions to upload pictures from your computer (very simple). Then, to put a picture in a forum post, put the cursor over the picture in Photobucket. A menu appears. Move the cursor to the Direct link field and click. It automatically copies the link to your paste buffer. Go back to where you are editing the post, click the icon to add a picture, and do Ctrl/v to paste the link in. The picture will show up in your post.

                ...or use the "IMG code". That will post it directly in your post so members don't have to click the link. Preview your post before posting and make sure it all looks good!

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                • #9
                  I own an LC9 and I like the gun in general but I have found the only way for me to be accurate with the gun is to use the very tip of my finger to pull the overly long heavy trigger. After about 100 rnds my finger becomes sore and if I do need to use it for self defense am I gonna remember to use my finger tip to squeeze the trigger or am I just pull it how I would all my other guns and drop accuracy even more than it would be in a defensive situation. I currently have a cw40 and a k40 and both are more comfortable to me in my mind I guess when it comes to accuracy and peace of mind if needed in a self defense situation. I am actually thinking about selling the LC9 because of this issue I have.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by gagnejs8 View Post
                    ...or use the "IMG code". That will post it directly in your post so members don't have to click the link. Preview your post before posting and make sure it all looks good!
                    The Direct link puts the picture in the post, not a link. But I paste the link in the picture popup where it is asking for a link.

                    Are you saying that the IMG code will put the picture in the post by simply pasting it in the post without using the picture popup? I'll try it right now.



                    It works. Only thing is, you can't see the picture until you preview the post. When you use my method, you see the picture in your post DURING the original edit session. I like that better.

                    By the way, that is a picture of my new custom mirror polished CM9. To see more pictures, go to my Photobucket Slide Show.
                    Last edited by JFootin; 04-16-2013, 01:52 PM.
                    Very interesting...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PaiN View Post
                      ....Any chance you can get some side by side pics up.....please
                      There are some very good CM9/LC9 comparison photos at this blog:
                      http://hueysgunsight.blogspot.com/20...decisions.html
                      Regards,
                      Greg
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by gb6491 View Post
                        There are some very good CM9/LC9 comparison photos at this blog:
                        http://hueysgunsight.blogspot.com/20...decisions.html
                        Regards,
                        Greg
                        Thanks

                        Its funny, I'd almost swear the LC9 is thinner and that it weighs less. I suppose stats don't lie.

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                        • #13
                          I purchased a LC9 a couple of months ago. The trigger pull was a big problem. I disliked it so much that I sold it.

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                          • #14
                            Wow! Nice photos. The polishing really dresses-up the CM9. I recently purchased a CM9 and am very satisfied with it, but mine is plain-jane compared with these photos.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by TL1852 View Post
                              I purchased a LC9 a couple of months ago. The trigger pull was a big problem. I disliked it so much that I sold it.
                              My priority is a reliable, easily concealable carry weapon in at least 9mm. Owning several guns becomes a training problem if you enjoy shooting all of them and one or two use a different manual of arms or the trigger differs greatly from the rest. I'm on the fence with both the PM9 and the LC9. Neither has a trigger I like. Both too long. I'm just a SA guy. Time will tell what I'll ultimately do. Back to the range tomorrow to finish breaking-in the Ruger.

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