Is this a normal break-in for a PM9?

[Bear549]

Just a theory.... Fact: A full mag puts more pressure on the lips than 1 round less. I found the mag lips spread more when full. Theory: Lips spreading under full mag cause misfeed. Fix: squeeze mag top per the mag fix thread on this forum.

If this turns out to be true, then can we post it as the generic fix for 7rd mags? Please?

PS: It fixed my 2 7rd mags.

I have noticed this with the 6 round mag as well when cycling rounds through it without the guide rod and springs in the firearm. I think this is why the manual says to drop the side on the first round instead of slinging it. If you try this without the guide rod you will see how hard the first round chambers because it gets pushed down level instead of pointing up towards the feed ramp. The remaining rounds chamber very easily and point up towards the feed ramp. The pressure on the first round is just too much with a full mag. Squeezing the top of the mag does help keep the first round in place.

[jocko]

no no

jocko? Is that a new guy? Sounds kind of familiar.

The extended mags are ugly. I know ugly.

butt ugly:d

[MBFD]

Next month I will be picking up a PM9.
They're not a cheap gun. Which makes me wonder why the continued problems with the 7 rd mag? Why has Kahr not taken care of this? I think I read that you can trade in your 7 for a 6, true?
To me, even the six is ugly. It's not a flush fit, which makes it look cheap. I want a mag that looks like it's a part of the gun, smooooth and flush.

[jocko]

first thing I did back yonder was send my two 6 round magaqs to a refinisher and had them finished in matt black chrome. not a wear spot on my mags and they now look like part ofthe gun. I canunderstaqnd why they have that stainless look to them, other than the mags are indeed stainless, but the same mags fit the MK9, so us PM owners if we have to will just have to get them refinished. For me the not so flush fit really is no issue for me. I knew that going into the buy.

More than likely we also (myself included) probalbly over emphasize the issue of the 7 round mags. Kahrs has well over 250K of the PM9 series out there with the 7 orund spare mag, and it certainly is not pandemic IMO. Irritating to some but solveable.

[TucsonMTB]

To add to what Jocko suggested . . .



Caswell Plating offers a black oxide gel kit for stainless (about $20 plus shipping) that gives good results on Kahr magazines. Their page takes a while to load, but check out the video on the Black Oxide page. The results above are the more metallic finish the narrator describes as being possible by rubbing with steel wool during the treatment. I did not use any of their sealer since a little gun oil on the outside of the magazine works just fine and is going to happen anyway.

By the way, the picture above is my DLC PM40 with one of the magazines I blackened as well as an untreated magazine to illustrate the color change. The finish has proven very durable so far, but is probably not quite as good as the black chrome Jocko suggested.

However, I like the results and that it was cheap and fast since I did it myself.

[MBFD]

I hate to make my small pocket nine bigger - but what about the Pierce +0?

Jocko you would know - can we send our ugly 7 rd mags back to K for a 6 rd? I prefer to have the same mag every time.

[pistolero_loco]

Lucky I guess

Purchased a PM9 as an occasional CCW because my Glock 26 which was just a little too chunky. I have been fortunate, no FTF or stove pipes with either 6 or 7 round mags after about 300 rounds. The gun is still very tight however. I let my daughter shoot it and she had trouble racking the slide and couldn't release the slide lock. Overall, I am very very happy with this pistol, it is worth the money. Definitely not a "looker" with the 7 rd mag though.

[TominCA]

I threw my 7 round mags (PM9 - MK9 and P380) in a box in the garage. The little plastic extension is the most cheap ugly thing I could imagine putting on a mag. One worked - one did not,for the P380; but I didn't even bother trying the 9mm mags.

Take a good look at the mag release button:

Make sure gun is not loaded. Take the slide off of the gun, and disassemble the mag.

Put just the mag body in and look down at the mag latch catching in the body (A flashlight helps here). In my 2 P380's the distance the catch intruded into the mag body was quite different on each pistol indicating that this may be a hand fitted part.

Then slide the follower up the mag and see if you feel some resistance. I had some on one gun so I carved up the mag follower a little, right on the the corner where it passes the catch. I sanded it to get it smooth and then in a moment of irresistable urge I took a needle file to the mag catch and made it conform to the curve of the magazine follower a little better. (It actually curved out, into the magazine, rather than in. If you mess up a new catch is cheap and easy to install. An easy fix that worked for me.

[OldLincoln]

I'll give $5 each for up to 4 of those butt ugly 7rd PM9 mags without cracks. PM me with your mailing address and I'll chance a $5 bill to you in a padded envelope that you can tape back up IF you open it carefully with a knife. Just affix the address label and stamp I include inside then mail the mag to me. Any takers?

[Bear549]

If you are caring a second mag, which I always do with only six rounds, why wouldn't you carry the 7 rounder as the second mag or better yet the P9 mag? That way you carrying more rounds.

[wyntrout]

Except for the P380, I carry the largest extended grip Kahr magazine available as a reload. For CCW the shortest is in the pistol.

For reloads, that means 7 rounds for the PM45(total 5+1+7) and for the PM9 the 7 or 8-round extended grip and the usual 6+1. I usually leave the three 8-round extended grip magazines with my CT LaserGrip-equipped and newly re-lamped night-sighted K9 (early '98) with one installed and two reloads. That's my night package at hand for TV watching. I need to get some more of those 8-round extended grip mags. They are excellent and fit both 9mm's. I use them for the range a lot and have had no problems whatsoever with them.

When someone else starts selling them for about $30, I'll get some extended grip higher capacity P380 mags, but $44 plus shipping for those tiny things just chokes me up! Three for the price of two is a better deal and it will come... maybe Cheaper Than Dirt. I've bought a LOT of Kahr magazines from them... can't have too many!

Wynn