More melt - PM45 pics (and PM9 before/after pics)

[jocko]

I have checked and rechecked both of my slide stops and I have ground far more away from my two slide stops than u even did, It ain't there and if that pin was in there there would be no way for my slide stop lever to spin like a top. It would have been easy to see in new untouched condition...Seems like a lot of trouble for kahr to go through.The P380 has the forged slide stop in it and with my **** TRACY magnifying glass, I cannot see any indication ast qall of a pin.

Your point is valid to but how is that pin held in the slide lock flat peace. Is it just pressed in somehow, but if so onje would think if it spins free like a top then why would the pin just not fall out???

[CJB]

I imagine the slide stop pin has a groove cut in it, into which the little pin transects. Iow, the little pin does not go through the big pin. It only acts as a keeper.

[jocko]

makes sense

I imagine the slide stop pin has a groove cut in it, into which the little pin transects. Iow, the little pin does not go through the big pin. It only acts as a keeper.

but that is such a small area to be squeezing all that stuff in. I. e. like the polymer trigger pin keeper does... I forgot and just glass checked my K9 kwhich is aobut 6+ years old, no pin mark on that slide at all. One would have to see that pin circle if it was there.

Heh forum guys look at your slide stops on the P, PM,K. T series and see if u have that pin visible like CJB. CJB, trust me I am not arguing with you, yours is very evident to see, mine if they are there are impossable to see in any way, and I dremeled the piss outta my PM9 slide stop levers (2) If it is there then kahr done a super job of installing this pin where we cannot see it at all. Course I would be very surprised even if kahr even makes the slide stop lever.

[jocko]

CJB, HEAVENS TO BETSY. I again rechecked my P380 and sure in hell it has the pin. U might indeed be dead right but I for the life of me cannot see it in my K, PM slide stops but that sucker is sure there in the P380..

[CJB]

CJB, HEAVENS TO BETSY. I again rechecked my P380 and sure in hell it has the pin. U might indeed be dead right but I for the life of me cannot see it in my K, PM slide stops but that sucker is sure there in the P380..

I never thought you was arguing with me... its just that we had a mystery goin' on, and no way to get to the bottom of it.

My initial take on the slide stop, was that Kahr took a ground pin, and a lever - and press fit them. I thought maybe there was a hidden "flat" or they upset the end of the pin - which could have been annealed. They got it on there somehow, dunno how. Thats because all I saw was my PM45 (black) where the pin doesn't rotate.

After the PM9 and PM45 - both silver - I see it differently... but since yours has no pin... I dunno, still a mystery. I gotta take the eye loupe and have a looksee at the black PM45's lever. I never bothered to look closely at it. Wont be back to my place for another two hours... so.... I spose we can wait it out.

I agree with you that Kahr probably doesn't make the lever itself. They probably just finish machine it.

[jocko]

I can't see why the pins would e any different, so more than likely ur righton target, there is a keeper pin holding the main pin. jsut that Icannot see it at all. I don't think there is a finish over their slide stop lever either but if they beat blast the slide stop lever, then maybe they can blast it i such a way that the pin is never seen,.

that rtemains a total mystery on my well contoured PM9 slide stops. I know from ur photo and my P380 also exactly where that pin should be on that lever and for the life of me I cannot see it at all, but I now think it just has to be there for main pin to spin like a top with no restriction what so ever. Actually in a way makes me feel betterabout y slide stop now as I thought that maybe that main pin was pressed somehow intothe lever itself and now that it was free and turning, it might just fall out someday. I know now that is just not gonna happen. UntilI can somehow see that mark where the pin goes intothe lever,on my K and PM9 gun, I willsay it ain't there, WHEN I FULLY NOW KNOW IT IS PROBABLY THERE.

I did notice on the inside of my two PM9 slide stops stamped into part of the slide stop is P9

[jocko]

I agree with you that Kahr probably doesn't make the lever itself. They probably just finish machine it.

If even that!!!
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[CJB]

Just checked... you need a 10x loupe to see it, but its there on my recent production PM45, but the pin wont spin on that one.

[OldLincoln]

Last cleaning I put a little umph to spin the slide lock pin and it started spinning. It was tight at first but loosened up a bit. I would have said before then that mine just did not spin. I hope I didn't mess up anything but it looks and feels okay.

[wyntrout]

All of mine are "spinners", but Kahr sent me two SS slide locks that were solid... along with two sets of the screws, washers, and slide lock springs when my PM45's spring was really bent all kinds of ways. My PM45 is DLC and the old one seemed okay, so I returned the two slide locks.

They spent a lot of time on THAT pistol and I was trying to save them a few bucks. I even stuck my P380 in the same box and returned it along with my PM45 on the bad-slide-replacement return... return 3 and 2 for the P380.

Wynn

[kahr47]

but that is such a small area to be squeezing all that stuff in. I. e. like the polymer trigger pin keeper does... I forgot and just glass checked my K9 kwhich is aobut 6+ years old, no pin mark on that slide at all. One would have to see that pin circle if it was there.

Heh forum guys look at your slide stops on the P, PM,K. T series and see if u have that pin visible like CJB. CJB, trust me I am not arguing with you, yours is very evident to see, mine if they are there are impossable to see in any way, and I dremeled the piss outta my PM9 slide stop levers (2) If it is there then kahr done a super job of installing this pin where we cannot see it at all. Course I would be very surprised even if kahr even makes the slide stop lever.

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Hello Jocko,

I have one of the new style PM9s (new in May) and it is staked thru the slide stop lever but pin does not go all the way thru. Mine appears to be solid and will not spin as you indicate yours will. Maybe it will in time but I'm not ready to put any undue torque on it to see
It also is stamped P9.

I was always reading about how sharp these releases are and that some file them down to smooth the edges. Mine appears to have come from the factory already beveled with smooth edges. I've attached a pic for comparison.

Steve

[jocko]

sure in hell is and for a few years kahrs has startred to bevel the leading edge of the release like yours. ...