Returning gun to Kahr

[Allen]

Since it seems that returning a new gun to Kahr for repairs before it will work correctly is standard operating procedure I was wondering if the owner can do this and receive it back from Kahr or does it all have to go through a FFL?

I'm twix & between a CM9 and a Glock 26 for a CCW so I'm trying to figure out all the bridges I'll have to cross with each one. From what all I'm reading it seems the CM9 is the smaller more concealable gun but the Glock is more consistently reliable right out of the box so, confusion confusion.

[Bawanna]

A gun sent for repair can be delivered directly back to you. Unless the serialized part (the frame) is replaced. Then theres a new serial number and you have to go through an FFL.

The CM would win hands down in the carry department, I'm with you on the Glock reliability at least up to the Generation 3 guns. Heard there are some issues with the Gen 4 but I have no experience with them.

[sharpetop]

My Glocks spend alot of time in the safe now that I've discovered Kahr... Just sayin'.

[Bawanna]

Sorry Tucson, usually most have called it quits by this time of night and didn't want Allen to have to wait. I'm gonna coast for a spell I think and lurk.

[GTM]

Since it seems that returning a new gun to Kahr for repairs before it will work correctly is standard operating procedure I was wondering if the owner can do this and receive it back from Kahr or does it all have to go through a FFL?

I'm twix & between a CM9 and a Glock 26 for a CCW so I'm trying to figure out all the bridges I'll have to cross with each one. From what all I'm reading it seems the CM9 is the smaller more concealable gun but the Glock is more consistently reliable right out of the box so, confusion confusion.

I have both a G26 and a CM9. I purchased my CM9 about 2 months ago. The CM9 is much easier to conceal since it's thinner and lighter. I've had a minor issue with my CM9, I had to open the end of the recoil spring just a little because it was causing the recoil guide rod to snag. I use a Crossbreed Minituck for IWB and Personal Security Systems kydex holster for OWB. The CM9 has been flawless in the 200 rounds I've put through it.

I purchased my G26 new less than a year ago and have taken 4 defensive pistol classes and put 1800 rounds through it in that time. It's been completely flawless. However, it is thicker and slightly harder to conceal. I use a Crossbreed Supertuck for IWB and Personal Security Systems kydex holster for OWB.

I had a situation last Friday where I had the CM9 but wished I had my G26. So while the CM9 has had a lot of carry time lately, I'm probably going to default back to the G26.

My personal opinion, based on my personal preferences and experience is that both are too big for pocket carry. I know there are those that pocket carry both, but I personally don't like having a chunk of metal in my pocket. It's too uncomfortable for me.

[Bawanna]

Being Bawanna means "never having to say you're sorry!"

Especially as effectively as you pour oil on troubled waters while dispensing genuine wisdom.

Well thanks Tucson, I think that's the nicest thing anybody ever said to me.

[Thunder71]

Some people don't have the patience to work with a tight gun like a Kahr or Kimber. Both are very high quality guns, but are not build to the loose tolerances that Glock or XD/XDM's are. I got lucky and got a shooter right out of the box, but I strongly believe that Kahr is THE best concealed carry name out there and if you spend a little time and effort getting them set the rewards will last a lifetime.

Call me a fanboy, but I carry my Kahr every day and trust it with the protection of my loved ones without a second thought.

[Zebulun]

I own both a 26 and CM9. They have different carry modes. Both are dead reliable and both suit me fine, the 26 is more accurate at over 35 yards but that's not it's intended function envelope.
I wouldn't be without either one!

[wm36]

I had a situation last Friday where I had the CM9 but wished I had my G26. So while the CM9 has had a lot of carry time lately, I'm probably going to default back to the G26.

Care to add any more to this? Curious why you felt the CM9 was not enough.
Just the higher capacity of the G26?

[GTM]

Care to add any more to this? Curious why you felt the CM9 was not enough.
Just the higher capacity of the G26?

The circumstance is that I was in a fast food restaurant at night with my family and we were the only customers. Three suspicious individuals came in, two went for the counter and one stayed behind. It was at this point I realized that the CM9 would probably not be enough. Fortunately the whole situation turned out to be legitimate and they were not there to rob the place. However, at the time I didn't know it was legit and my initial panic showed me the limitations.

I've done enough training to realize that the simple double-tap may not be enough in a life or death situation. It may take multiple hits to subdue the attacker. Heck, it took this officer 17 rounds of 40 caliber to center-of-mass to subdue the bad guy. http://www.lawofficer.com/article/tr...er-soulis-inci

For me it was the capacity and trigger reset of the G26 versus the CM9. I always carry a spare magazine regardless of the weapon. So in this particular circumstance I would have had 10+1 in the G26, plus an additional 10-round spare giving me 21 rounds (or 26 if I carried one of my G19 magazines as a spare). The CM9 would have given me 6+1, and a 6-round spare for a total of 13.

For me the trigger reset is also very important. The Glock has a very short, tangible reset which allows faster and more accurate follow-up shots than the CM9. I still love the CM9 and I will carry it when the G26 is too big for the clothing needed for whatever activity I'm attending.

[JACQUESFAUST]

Right Out of the Box??

I share your grief about reliability right out of the box.
Many people obviously have that same expectation of reliability "right out of the box." Why shouldn't we.
Glock 26 is very nice but 1/2 inch longer and 1/2 inch taller and probably 25%? heavier unloaded. Get used to the Kahr, it will more likely be the most comfortable in your pocket (I don't carry on the waistband). Just for comparison, I suggest you check out the Smith & Wesson model 36 (38caliber) -- it fits in my pocket just like the PM9 AND is a "sure thing" 5 shot revolver.
Think about it, a "sure thing"...5 shots...we all imagine the various scenarios where we'll need to defend ourself, which is statistically remote, but even more remote will be the need to get off more than 5 shots. So, I will be alternating between these two pistols. For the house I have my bigger Glock.
But back to the issue of reliability out of the box, I was dissappointed when I spoke with Kahr after my first 200 rounds with 4 nose dives (2 at the end of my first 100 on day one, another 2 at the end of my second 100 on day two). They expressed that performance as being acceptable and further firing needed to break-in the gun -- bullshit. I will break it in further but that is still bullshit.

[Rainman48314]

http://www.lawofficer.com/article/tr...er-soulis-inci

What a warrior that Officer is! The odds of being in a shooting with that many rounds exchanged are close to zero for a civilian. As a CPL holder, I need to be aware of an exit strategy more than I need 20 or 30 rounds. We don't go looking for trouble and would never be on the offense. I think carrying a spare mag is a fine idea, but only in the event there is a malfunction, not for the capacity. To me, one needs to carry whatever you shoot well. Hits matter, loud noise doesn't. Everyone should do what comforts them.

[Hognutz]

That was a story of true fortitude in the midst of peril. That officer is a hero. Wow!!