Considering a PM9 but have a few concerns

[sfla99]

Hi all,

First post of hopefully many. So I little background to start, I live in south Florida, it's hot, humid and sticky. For my EDC I carry a P2000SK in a Cross Breed Super Tuck, I love it, think its a fine firearm and does everything I need including being able to conceal well in (most cases).

However, with that being said, it is a double stack gun, and while it is very small I do find I need to adjust my attire in order to properly conceal the SK.

There are time when I just want to throw on some shorts and a t-shirt and just head out with out having to plan for jeans, and under shirt, a lose over shirt and not sweat to death.

I knew when I purchased the SK for EDC I would end up buying the PM so I would be able to have some options based on situation etc.

I have done a TON of reading and research about the PM, read the pre-setup thread and the lube thread, have watched countless videos on youtube etc, but I am still a bit unsure, it seems there are tons of completely satisfied owners, and while I know this gun will be incredibly easy to conceal even compared to my SK, the reliability issues still cause a bit concern.

A buddy of mine purchased one and he explains his has been faultless, an exemplary firearm, but I have watched so many videos of feed ramp issues, magazine issues, FTF/FTE and on and on, I just basically want to know I can rely on this gun as I can my HK.

Is this more of an older thing of the past or are things pretty stable these days? I know all about the break in (200 rounds), pre-racking the slide 500 times, cleaning, lubing, striping the mags etc.

Just about to lay down the cash and want to be sure I am doing the right thing, I am not 100% sure how much concealment I will gain between swapping from a P2000SK & and PM9 based on dress.

I plan to carry near exclusive in a mini-tuck at 3:30 which is my preferred method of carry, though with the PM9, I will also try a Galco IWB in appendix at 1:00 and also possibly a pocket system just for versatility.

Just looking for some additional feedback before I plunk down the cash

Thanks in advance!

[bonjorno2]

get a kahr cm9 and a pjholster.com holster and you will be gtg.... I too am in florida and know what you are saying... save the extra cash and get the cm9.

[bonjorno2]

to touch on my last post my cm9 has 0 issues and is fun to shoot and also can be carried in the front pocket easily.

[mser]

Over the past several years I've owned many different handguns of various calibers. My PM9 that I adopted in November of '02 has remained my favorite of them all and is the one I turn to in nearly each concealed carry opportunity. Quality construction, flawless performance and very capable self defense caliber.

[Thunder71]

700 rounds, 0 failures - http://giholsters.com Silent Thunder!

[JFootin]

get a kahr cm9 and a pjholster.com holster and you will be gtg.... I too am in florida and know what you are saying... save the extra cash and get the cm9.

+2. If you want the black finish and night sights, go for the PM9. Elsewise, get the CM9 and save a lot of money. They're essentially the same gun.

Hot and sweaty in South Florida, you don't need a CB type holster because the PM9/CM9 are so light. The Garrett Silent Thunder is a nice holster, but at less than half the price ($40 shipped) the P. J. Holster IWB with Kydex clip is the perfect holster for these guns! I can wear mine all day and have to reach back there (8:30 for me, a lefty) to confirm that it is still there! Perfectly comfortable. Very concealable - the gun sits up tight against your body. No printing. Without a shirt on, I can face someone and talk with them, and they'll never see the gun unless I turn at least 45° to the right. The holster is not 1 mm longer, or wider, or thicker than it has to be to do the job. Easy on and off with the clip, yet stable with that wide clip over a good thick belt. Here are 2 pics of Coach Paul's PPS in one:

[Ikeo74]

Forget about racking the slide 500 times. I think it's a waste of time and energy. Just shoot your 200 rounds. That will limber the springs a lot easier than racking it. Buy the CM9 and save $200 for holsters and accesories.

[Ubaldo99]

Stop mentally playing with yourself. Get a CM9 and laugh all the way to the bank.

[OldLincoln]

Welcome to the forum sfla99, and I also hope it is just the first of many posts. We like new (and old) guys so pull up a chair and feel at home.

While nobody can absolutely guarantee your new PM/CM9 will be absolutely perfect, the odds are it will be close to it. The trick is in the prep and lube and shooting with a strong pair of hands. Either the CM or PM will be a great carry gun and they are great to shoot.

[Rainman48314]

Hi all,

First post of hopefully many. So I little background to start, I live in south Florida, it's hot, humid and sticky. For my EDC I carry a P2000SK in a Cross Breed Super Tuck, I love it, think its a fine firearm and does everything I need including being able to conceal well in (most cases).

However, with that being said, it is a double stack gun, and while it is very small I do find I need to adjust my attire in order to properly conceal the SK.

There are time when I just want to throw on some shorts and a t-shirt and just head out with out having to plan for jeans, and under shirt, a lose over shirt and not sweat to death.

I knew when I purchased the SK for EDC I would end up buying the PM so I would be able to have some options based on situation etc.

I have done a TON of reading and research about the PM, read the pre-setup thread and the lube thread, have watched countless videos on youtube etc, but I am still a bit unsure, it seems there are tons of completely satisfied owners, and while I know this gun will be incredibly easy to conceal even compared to my SK, the reliability issues still cause a bit concern.

A buddy of mine purchased one and he explains his has been faultless, an exemplary firearm, but I have watched so many videos of feed ramp issues, magazine issues, FTF/FTE and on and on, I just basically want to know I can rely on this gun as I can my HK.

Is this more of an older thing of the past or are things pretty stable these days? I know all about the break in (200 rounds), pre-racking the slide 500 times, cleaning, lubing, striping the mags etc.

Just about to lay down the cash and want to be sure I am doing the right thing, I am not 100% sure how much concealment I will gain between swapping from a P2000SK & and PM9 based on dress.

I plan to carry near exclusive in a mini-tuck at 3:30 which is my preferred method of carry, though with the PM9, I will also try a Galco IWB in appendix at 1:00 and also possibly a pocket system just for versatility.

Just looking for some additional feedback before I plunk down the cash

Thanks in advance!

It works out for the majority but sucks if you're not in it. Since no one can guarantee your other options, just be sure you can live with the long DAO trigger. If you're a revolver shooter, you may love the trigger. I don't because I prefer a SA 4.5 to 5.5 # pull. Kahrs will be 7.0 -7.5#

[JimC]

I recommend you start with reading all of the posts with Kahr owners reporting problems, all problems, with the CM9 and the PM9 and determine for yourself which pistol has more complaints.

I second what Ikeo74 stated about racking the slide 500 times.

I bought the PM9, all black w/NS and would never give it up for a CM9.

[FLBri]

I'm big on triggers. The PM9 / CM9 (all Kahrs for that matter) have the best DA trigger there is on a semi.

Personally, my PM9 has never had a failure and is the most reliable semi auto handgun I own. It's the last gun I would get rid of.

[jimsea]

I can spend the whole day shooting this gun, it's that much fun. Accurate too. Mine has been flawless so I guess that factors into the equation also. Other than my LCP, I have never had a HG shoot flawlessly out of the box.

This is gun is so solid you could use it as a weapon without even chambering a round. lol

[Doctorbob]

Dude,
I have one for sale. It has 500 rounds thru it. It's been reworked by Kahr and pronounced fixed. It comes with extra magazines AND IT HAS A VIRGIN CROSSBREED MINITUCK TO GO WITH IT! How could you go wrong!?
http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?t=9128

[sfla99]

Hi all,

Thanks for the replies! After a bunch of reading on this forum is makes me feel both informed and frightened of Kahr pistols at the same time haha.

There seems to be the line in the sand, some users who claim a flawless experience, and numerous other who have constant issues that require one to file, sand, polish, send back for service, replace bad slides, springs, manually vice down materials to reshape, cut away, fix backward springs, nose dive and omg it just goes on and on haha.

That's quite scary to be honest, I am considering a black diamond with ns and at that price point that puts me in the premium range, I am guessing even with a deal were looking at the post $700 range before tax.

To spend that kind of cash and have to deal with all those issues would certainly be a pain in the rear. What is so strange is you would think Kahr is listening and following all the forum content regarding their products, some of these issues seem so small it would make sense for them to fix these issues.

I am still debating, I have felt the gun in hand and while it does feel nice, I am not 100% sold yet. There are two shows coming up in my locale, one down south of me this weekend and then another on the 12th.

I have a little time to decide, but man, it's tough, there is just such as distinct line between the happy and frustrated.

Cheers!