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  • #31
    Originally posted by jocko View Post
    My first andonly Smith M& P had the worst fokking trigger I have ever had on any semi. Gritty and just terrible. It wasnot the PRO or what ever that is supposed todesignate. but after I sent it to David Bowie for his TLC, when I get that gun back it was super scary. the trigger was just awesome and it seems very short in stroke. I shot it well but I din't like it at all and sold it to a fella in Texas and he worte me back after he had it awhile and said that was the finest gun he has ever owned. David Bowie did mygrip stipplying and instlled soe great sights. the gun was super match grade when he gotr done with it. Lost my fokkingass when I sold it to.

    My G19 tuned,stippled and resigheed by Accurate Iron is my finest shooter.Fokkinggun just amazes me. It actully makes me look good on the range
    If you go to the S&W sight and look up the Pro, you will see what it is. They do a little extra work on the Pro model for competition, to work out some of the kinks that may be found on other M&P line. It is still designated as a stock gun, but a refined one. That's about all I can tell you about it Jocko. It is a really nice shooter.
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    • #32
      My wife and I have both owned 9mm Shields for about a year now and like them very much, however they don't work very well for pocket carry. That is why I got a PM9. I think it's a great little pistol and will be buying more Kahrs in the future.
      Draw me not without provocation, sheath me not without honor.

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      • #33
        With the shield filling the same size as the cw and p series you might as well buy a tp or the new ct series. I have a open bottom holster owb holster that was made for the cm9 but ended up carry'n the TP40 in it. My cm9 has never been in it. Shamefull.


        Check out A&G mag sleeves for a full grip if that matters to you. I use a tp series 8 shoot mag as back up for my cm9
        http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/2-AGPM9

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        • #34
          Here's the order of my favorite trigger of the guns I currently own: 1 being the best
          1. S&W Shield 9mm
          2. Glock 19 gen 4
          3. S&W M&P22
          4. Kahr CW380
          5. Kahr CM9

          I've also not had to do any prep work on any new S&W or Glock which I can't say for the Kahrs I own. Cool thing about Glocks is you make sure there is no obstructions in the barrel and then go shoot it.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by smokersteve View Post
            Here's the order of my favorite trigger of the guns I currently own: 1 being the best
            1. S&W Shield 9mm
            2. Glock 19 gen 4
            3. S&W M&P22
            4. Kahr CW380
            5. Kahr CM9

            I've also not had to do any prep work on any new S&W or Glock which I can't say for the Kahrs I own. Cool thing about Glocks is you make sure there is no obstructions in the barrel and then go shoot it.


            I think Glocks have the WORST trigger in the industry and I had to carry one on duty for a long time. My newly-acquired PM9 has the best I've owned, it edges out the Shield and we own two. As in most things, it's subjective.
            Draw me not without provocation, sheath me not without honor.

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            • #36
              TP9 vs S&W Shield 9MM

              I shoot my shield 9 far better than I ever shot my pm9.

              However I find the cw380 shoots MUCH better than a Glock 42, for me that is.


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              • #37
                Guys are always comparing how a shield to a cm or pm9. Different size pistols , hard to get a fair comparison. Now add the cw9 pr p9 to the comparison might change things . Same size and weight class as the shield.


                Have you fired the glock 42 enough to be in tune with the tigger and have the pistol broke in well?? Might be different story if you have 500 rounds thru each then do a comparison.


                To me if a trigger is smooth I don't care if its a sa , da or striker trigger , kahr, glock, m&p or 1911 , give me a few mags thru each and if there in the same class as far as weight and size goes I will shoot each one well.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by jocko View Post
                  My first andonly Smith M& P had the worst fokking trigger I have ever had on any semi. Gritty and just terrible. It wasnot the PRO or what ever that is supposed todesignate. but after I sent it to David Bowie for his TLC, when I get that gun back it was super scary. the trigger was just awesome and it seems very short in stroke. I shot it well but I din't like it at all and sold it to a fella in Texas and he worte me back after he had it awhile and said that was the finest gun he has ever owned. David Bowie did mygrip stipplying and instlled soe great sights. the gun was super match grade when he gotr done with it. Lost my fokkingass when I sold it to.

                  My G19 tuned,stippled and resigheed by Accurate Iron is my finest shooter.Fokkinggun just amazes me. It actully makes me look good on the range
                  Jocko, an entire team of makeup artists couldn't make you look good on the range. The boy is butt ugly. I will agree that since we live in a litigious society that very few people under the age of fifty know what a really good trigger feels like. A good trigger is satin smooth with no stacking or creep. When a good trigger breaks it feels like the snapping of a glass rod. The over travel on a good trigger is damn near imperceptible. Damn, I just described the trigger on my Gold Cup.
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                  • #39
                    My wife and I have has two 9mm Shields for over a year and they have been shot a lot. They are a bit too big for pocket carry, I use the PM9 and CM9 for that, but for belt carry they beat the little Kahrs. A very accurate, dependable pistol with a good trigger.
                    Draw me not without provocation, sheath me not without honor.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Pointblank View Post
                      My wife and I have has two 9mm Shields for over a year and they have been shot a lot. They are a bit too big for pocket carry, I use the PM9 and CM9 for that, but for belt carry they beat the little Kahrs. A very accurate, dependable pistol with a good trigger.
                      The shield is hard to beat for IWB carry. A cm9 has pushed my 442 out of my pocket and made itself a new home


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                      • #41
                        If you own and carry a cm or pm9 why buy a shield when the cw or P series kahr is in the same class is the shield. Just a little lighter. Mag ted to work the smaller kahr and holster if the smaller model gest carried out of the pocket.

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                        • #42
                          The shield is in a different class than the Kahr IMO. The kahr is a great ccw piece for daily carry. The shield is something that I would trust to hell and back. Know what I'm saying?


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                          • #43
                            Nope !! I feel the same way about my kahrs . I just don't like mixing brands for CC. Not like I have a few of bad guns just don't like to mix things up. If I did not have kahrs today I would carry a PT111G2 or the 40cal version.

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                            • #44
                              TP9 vs S&W Shield 9MM

                              Originally posted by hardluk1 View Post
                              Nope !! I feel the same way about my kahrs . I just don't like mixing brands for CC. Not like I have a few of bad guns just don't like to mix things up. If I did not have kahrs today I would carry a PT111G2 or the 40cal version.
                              As much as I love Kahrs, I don't feel like they are brutish reliability mules like Glocks or M&Ps. They are a more refined piece. More accurate, better trigger, smoother contours, etc. Reliable yes, but I wouldn't expect them to work as well as some other choices after being submerged in mud, or heavily neglected for long periods of time. I could be totally wrong about that, it's just the impression I get between the two guns.

                              If your curious, it's the CM9 I have on my hip right now, and not the Shield.


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                              • #45
                                If tomorrow was the last day of normal life I would have a glock 19 on my hip with my dw357 in a back pack. NO small handguns is the best choice for a real fight BUT many makes and models do very well at it. I let one of my girls have my cw9 for her cc since I bought the tp40 only time I carry my cm9 is when mowing the yard or a quick run to the store down the street and general around the house . Pour little tang stay near home mostly. It is carried when we get away from the area as a back up if travel'n.

                                IlLike and shoot to many handguns and with a few great old revolvers and one M&P about to be joined by a pro core version. Those would be the -if things got bad handguns for sure.

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