Who wants Politics on Kahrtalk?

[muggsy]

If you don't like discussing politics then don't. In spite of what Obama is trying to do this is still a free country.

[Thunder71]

Come on, whether you 'want to' or not, having the topics display on 'Active Topics' is about as tempting as a fat kid walking by a candy store. There are plenty of other places to discuss politics if you choose to, and 'freedom of speech' isn't just your right, it's also the right of the forum owners to determine what they want allowed on their board, so it is being supported.

I like the site how it is, if something political is brought up it's generally tolerated to an extent so long as it's a valid discussion, although the magnifying lens burns hot from watchful eyes in case it goes too far.

[skiflydive]

I voted no because I'm actively seeking sanctuary from all their bovine scatology

[BEARDOG]

If I joined a political talk forum and started posting about guns, gunsmithing, reloading, and holsters would that be appropriate ??? I don't think so.

KahrTalk = Talk about GUNS.

[Scoundrel]

I voted "No", but...

I don't know if I would agree with any rules against it for "free speech" reasons. That being said, I came here to learn and talk about guns. Technical stuff, style stuff, popular opinions, real-world scenarios as opposed to what the media propagates, and help understanding and finding gun-related laws.

When I see political discussions that are far beyond the scope of guns, I stop reading and unsubscribe the thread. I almost got sucked into one a few days ago but exercised self-restraint and bowed out.

Posts involving politics as they are directly related to guns are inevitable and I consider those to be relevant, even if I don't enjoy reading them. But posts about the validity of someone's birth certificate, while they could be remotely, through an extended chain of reasoning, be relevant to guns, are not DIRECTLY relevant to guns, and I don't care to read about anyone's opinions regarding that subject here.

When I see extreme posts that are bashing our "leaders", and those posts go beyond reason, proof, or civility and turn into hate posts, that really turns me off. When I see that kind of post from users whose opinions about other subjects I have respected in the past, and who have input that I consider valuable on other subjects, it saddens me and my respect for those people goes down a notch with every foaming-at-the-mouth political post.

My computer gaming friends have wildly different political and religious backgrounds and opinions. When we get together to play games, we talk about game-related stuff, and we don't talk about politics and religion. Why not? It's not because we've made any rules restricting freedom of speech in our gaming sessions, it's because everyone understands without having any formal rules that we'll all get along better and have positive interactions if we choose to avoid those subjects.

If we were getting together for the purpose of discussing politics, well, then it would be a different story. There are plenty of forums online where you can go and discuss politics until you're just as full of **** as the politicians are. But that's not the purpose of this forum.

[O'Dell]

I have no problems with it especially in this most important election year. I would prefer that it remain civil, but I also realize that with the high emotions running today, some will occasionally go over the line. Gun rights are currently so entwined with politics that the whole issue is hard to avoid.

[MW surveyor]

I voted NO but I do peek from time to time.

[getsome]

I'm ok with it so long as it doesn't get nasty...It's perfectly normal to have a difference of opinion so long as we act like ladies and gentlemen...Sometimes it's healthy to look at any subject from another persons perspective so thats a good thing....

As long as it doesn't turn into a big p!ssin match b!tch slap session making Bawanna go cut a switch to seperate some folks I say lets continue on...

[TriggerMan]

I voted "No", but...

I don't know if I would agree with any rules against it for "free speech" reasons. That being said, I came here to learn and talk about guns. Technical stuff, style stuff, popular opinions, real-world scenarios as opposed to what the media propagates, and help understanding and finding gun-related laws.

When I see political discussions that are far beyond the scope of guns, I stop reading and unsubscribe the thread. I almost got sucked into one a few days ago but exercised self-restraint and bowed out.

Posts involving politics as they are directly related to guns are inevitable and I consider those to be relevant, even if I don't enjoy reading them. But posts about the validity of someone's birth certificate, while they could be remotely, through an extended chain of reasoning, be relevant to guns, are not DIRECTLY relevant to guns, and I don't care to read about anyone's opinions regarding that subject here.

When I see extreme posts that are bashing our "leaders", and those posts go beyond reason, proof, or civility and turn into hate posts, that really turns me off. When I see that kind of post from users whose opinions about other subjects I have respected in the past, and who have input that I consider valuable on other subjects, it saddens me and my respect for those people goes down a notch with every foaming-at-the-mouth political post.

My computer gaming friends have wildly different political and religious backgrounds and opinions. When we get together to play games, we talk about game-related stuff, and we don't talk about politics and religion. Why not? It's not because we've made any rules restricting freedom of speech in our gaming sessions, it's because everyone understands without having any formal rules that we'll all get along better and have positive interactions if we choose to avoid those subjects.

If we were getting together for the purpose of discussing politics, well, then it would be a different story. There are plenty of forums online where you can go and discuss politics until you're just as full of **** as the politicians are. But that's not the purpose of this forum.

Great post. Sums up my feelings exactly.

[1radman]

Lets have it all! politics, guns, humor, even the occasional purddy lady!
Gotta live a little!
We're all adults....self-edit before you get ugly...unless it's too late fur ya.

[ltxi]

nope....not really

[jocko]

I voted no but u all have my permission to hammer the great one any time. I think our freedom of speech still allows that. I must say I have more respect for my dog that I do the great one. I wish I did not feel that way...Just sayin.

[jocko]

ok

having been a moderator and administrator (still) on several forums, I can say that the "First Amendment" right to "free speach" begins and ends with the opinions of the forum management. They own the bandwidth on the www, and can control whatever they want. In the purest sense of the "!A", and "private property rights", there's a bit of a conundrum concerning what you can, and cannot discuss.

in layman terms WTF did u say

Just askin

[jocko]

speak

I don't watch TV because it is all politics all the time with everybody yelling at each other. I avoid political posts here but there are too any blasting opinions now and we still have a ways to go before the Nov elections.

I just want to know if I'm the only ole codger out here.

for urself "codger". I can remember when 40 was old and then I hit 40 and then 50 was old and then I it 50 and then 60 was old and I hit 60 and 70 was old, and I ai't there yet so I am a younster by those standards

[mr surveyor]

in layman terms WTF did u say

Just askin

well... I was trying to point out that there is a bit of a difference in Constitutionaly guaranteed "free speach", and what you can and cannot do in or on someone else's property. All the forums I participate on make their own "house rules". If the rules state you can't use the work "pink", then them's the house rules. These are private forums that just happen to have a public audience.

That's my take on it anyway.


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