Trigger Reset Article

[Tinman507]

Good stuff here

http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=21537

[JFootin]

Unfortunately, this doesn't help us Kahr shooters. Sometimes, I wish there was a shorter reset on kahr triggers for faster followup shots. And a predictable staging point where you could take up the slack, allign your sights and shoot with just a nudge.

[jg rider]

Unfortunately, this doesn't help us Kahr shooters. Sometimes, I wish there was a shorter reset on kahr triggers for faster followup shots. And a predictable staging point where you could take up the slack, allign your sights and shoot with just a nudge.

I seem to remember that the original elite triggers were supposed to have a shorter rearward travel and shorter reset. Or am I hallucinating?

[Deano]

Thanks for posting this. It's such a simple idea that I had not thought about. I'm going to try this next range trip. Makes a lot of sense.

[Kahrdriver64]

You're remembering correctly jg. Back in the 90's all kahrs had a trigger pull that went almost to the point of touching the rear of the trigger guard. Not sure the year but the introduced the elite with a shorter pull. 3/8" vs 1/2" if memory serves. I think by around 2000 all kahrs had the "elite" length trigger pull. I've upgraded two of my circa mid 90's Ks simply by installing current replacement triggers.

FWIW, small changes in length of pull, break, and reset can be made by stoning the mating surfaces on the striker and the sear (if that is the right name). Best to proceed with caution or let a pistol smith you trust do this work.

[jocko]

that is a good

I seem to remember that the original elite triggers were supposed to have a shorter rearward travel and shorter reset. Or am I hallucinating?

question. I am not sure of the two go together or not, meaning shorter stroke 3/8" also means shorter reset. It is just second nature to me in releasing the trigger on my kahr, I do it with all my guns, being a revolver guy earlier in years past, one just did that to cycle the action. I really don't feel it is a hindrance. My second shots it seems in my kahrs is fast for me. If anything it forces me to slow down a tad to. NOt sure unless one is a super shooter that just touching off two rounds as fast as one can is the most accurate way either

[Kahrdriver64]

True that, jocko. I find recovering from recoil and reacquiring the sight picture is my limiting factor with kahrs instead of trigger reset. It's not like shooting a tricked out compensated SA. It took me alot of range time with kahrs only, to get comfortable with them. I think the average shooter that doesnt commit to learning the kahr trigger may struggle.

[jocko]

and for me I lower my expectations in shooting my PM9. I know it has a 3/8" looooong trigger system, designed for my protection, so I don't think of it in terms of accuracy like a SA should ad would give or a short stroked glock does also for me. It is what it is, a close up gun that will go bang every time and will save ur life if needed. don't get me wrong I ahve viewed some ou8tstanding shot groups on this forum from owners. The gun can do it, just IMO most owners cannot. I certainly being one of them, but my P9 is just suchy a fun gun to shoot and today I made the trade for another blunt nose PM9 that my riding buddy didn't like due to the size and watned my ruger lcp more than I did, so we een traded. I think I got te best deal by fr buthe is happy as a lark, so that was all that mattered to me. U just don't see the old style version PM9 floating around anymore.

[Tinman507]

Nice trade!! You definitely got the better of the deal.

[scoose]

Trigger reset on the CM9 is ALL THE WAY OUT. I figure its a "safety" feature of the CM. To me this is a pocket carry pistol...it should have a long relatively hard trigger with a long reset. I have to admit, though, it is the smoothest I have ever felt in this class of weapon.

Of course the trigger to sear relationship could be changed to give a shorter reset but in the situation of the CM9 ( or any other compact ) why would you?? I understand what JFootin is getting at for sure! But to jocko's and Kdrivers point the reset is adequate to the pistol IMHO. There are plenty of weapons out there that are designed for speed and accuracy which as all of you know have very light triggers and very short resets. The CM9 and other compacts aren't in that class of weapons nor should they be if they are going to be used for CC.

[jocko]

ACTUALY THE LOONG RESET IS not a real complaint with kahr users either. They soon adapt, but it gives us something to talk about every once in awhile. the new enhanced trigger system on all kahrs with an exsternal safety has a shorter stroke by I am told 1/8" less than the elite, which if true brings that ehanced system in the 1/4Pull range, and then I thik kahr made a wise decision to only make this system available on models with the external safety. I would also assume then it has a shorter reset value to. To my kowledge I have not read of anyone haviing one of these new models yet. I sometimes think thee gun makers have to keep the pot stirred up wih new models or models with features that we think we just gotta have. Power of advertising..

[muggsy]

I've done this instinctively all of my life. I never knew that they had a name for it.