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  • #16
    Originally posted by Tinman507 View Post
    Anyone want to wager what actions if any the current resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave will take?
    He'll "act" like his opinion really matters just like he's been "acting" trying to look like a president for the last 4 years.

    For the sake of CCW holders and our rights, the media needs to shut up and let the courts do their thing like they are suppose to.
    The only thing better than having all the guns and ammo you'd ever need would be being able to shoot it all off the back porch.

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    • #17
      TINMAN, you did mean the tempoary illegal alien that is occupying 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. didn't you??? :001_tt2: rasberries...
      By the way all these new charges dispite the evidence of the injuries sustained during the struggle which was confirmed by the resent release by the doctors. Well Hell, lets not let factual evidence get in the way of justice now ...
      This has all the trappings of a circus on steroids. No matter what happens you can be sure that the Sh!t is going to hit the fan.

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      • #18
        The racist baiters/pimps/activists like Jackson and Sharpton won't be happy until there are riots like Watts... and the Lame Stream Media will be so happy that there's news to "report"... news they helped create with all of the sensationalim and in at least one instance where an audio clip was altered to make it sound like Zimmerman had brought up the race of the suspect... without being asked... which was a lie. It did not come up until the 911 operator asked for the race specifically and a description. The culprit was "fired" but probably got cudos and another valuable job in the "news service"... the All The News You Need To Know Lamestream Media... who's only too glad to inflame any situation with unsupported "facts" until called on their "sources".

        Wynn
        USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
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        Thomas Jefferson said

        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
        and

        "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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        • #19
          Keep a good supply of ammo...".
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          • #20
            The New Black Panthers were/are up here in Jacksonville trying to stir things up over Fire Department promotions. I haven't been catching the news and don't get the paper so I don't know how that's going. I think that they came up here after Sanford.

            I noticed that I'm getting low on .380 FMJ and need to order some more. I think that I have more SD ammo than range ammo now.

            Wynn
            USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
            Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
            Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

            Thomas Jefferson said

            “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
            and

            "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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            • #21
              Any judge worth his salt would toss this case as it has been a CF from the getgo. The let him go without charges. Then, by popular demand, brought about murder II charges on the guy without any further evidence than what they had? Now, we find he had substantial signs of an assault, so now the DOJ want to throw hate crime at him? Sounds like guilty until proven innocent IMO. The media hung him outo fo the gate.

              I don't see what the media and government wants besides stir up the public, cause riots, and create division in our country. Maybe that's what they are wanting to do - to activate the homeland security camps and utilize all the civil liberty-infringing acts that have came down the pipe in the last 10 years. It doesn't make sense to me otherwise.

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              “To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
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              • #22
                agree but IMO no judge willever do that. they will let the juryt turn him loose, takes the head off of a judge. The right thing to do wold be throw the case out but again not gonna happen IMO: Just sayin

                We have about a week ago in Indianapolis a 14 year old lback girl, stab to death her 4 year old cousin .. never seen Rev. Sharpton or Jesse J. over here in Indy wanting the death penalty or for that matter any blacks demonstrating for justice.
                . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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                • #23
                  Range ammo hurts too
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                  • #24
                    A few factoids - go google them yourself if you need to verify.

                    1. If the incident results in arrest and trial - Florida law's immunity from civil prosecution (with monetary payment to the prevailing plaintiff) is out the window - even if the defendant is acquitted. Florida law prohibits even arrest, until suitable probable cause is found. This case has been about the money, honey.

                    2. The Martin family's "lawyer" was not their lawyer, but gotten for them by another lawyer who went to him because of his ties to Rev. Al Sharpton.

                    3. Sharpton's office was the entity that "broke the case" to the UK news organizations, weeks after the incident occurred. They knew it would be sensationalized and re-emerge from the UK to the USA (some calculated risk involved), and that Sharpton's same office could act "shocked and distraught" over reading it in the UK newspapers.

                    4. The "lawyer" for the family started right in on the civil rights thing, and put forward the movement of "all we want is an arrest", under the purported guise of a "fair trail" being the family's only request. They knew that with no arrest, there would be no trial, and civil immunity would thus stand. They needed the arrest, then to move forward to trial.

                    5. They could not get the probable cause to be filed by Sanford PD, which refused on the facts known to them. So, it was the lawyer who contacted a 3rd party lobbiest to pressure the Governor to assign a special investigation - which surely had to find probable cause, for political reasons alone.

                    6. The family "lawyer" is now doing whatever it takes to distort the law, the facts, and public opinion, in order to go to trial. He could care less if he wins at trial. Remember, all he needs is a trial, not a win, to undo the civil immunity.

                    7. Once the family "lawyer" has civil immunity revoked, its open season on money - and their sights are not only set on Zimmerman, but on the community itself - as they have already stated.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by CJB View Post
                      A few factoids - go google them yourself if you need to verify.

                      1. If the incident results in arrest and trial - Florida law's immunity from civil prosecution (with monetary payment to the prevailing plaintiff) is out the window - even if the defendant is acquitted. Florida law prohibits even arrest, until suitable probable cause is found. This case has been about the money, honey.

                      2. The Martin family's "lawyer" was not their lawyer, but gotten for them by another lawyer who went to him because of his ties to Rev. Al Sharpton.

                      3. Sharpton's office was the entity that "broke the case" to the UK news organizations, weeks after the incident occurred. They knew it would be sensationalized and re-emerge from the UK to the USA (some calculated risk involved), and that Sharpton's same office could act "shocked and distraught" over reading it in the UK newspapers.

                      4. The "lawyer" for the family started right in on the civil rights thing, and put forward the movement of "all we want is an arrest", under the purported guise of a "fair trail" being the family's only request. They knew that with no arrest, there would be no trial, and civil immunity would thus stand. They needed the arrest, then to move forward to trial.

                      5. They could not get the probable cause to be filed by Sanford PD, which refused on the facts known to them. So, it was the lawyer who contacted a 3rd party lobbiest to pressure the Governor to assign a special investigation - which surely had to find probable cause, for political reasons alone.

                      6. The family "lawyer" is now doing whatever it takes to distort the law, the facts, and public opinion, in order to go to trial. He could care less if he wins at trial. Remember, all he needs is a trial, not a win, to undo the civil immunity.

                      7. Once the family "lawyer" has civil immunity revoked, its open season on money - and their sights are not only set on Zimmerman, but on the community itself - as they have already stated.
                      Good points. I did not know. Once again someone wants money for nothing. They sure do not sererve one penny. There son brought it on himself. If anything Zimmerman should sue them. I know can't happen.

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                      • #26
                        I took care of that "need" quickly. SGAmmo.com has S&B for $225 a case and $15 shipping... or shipping for two cases is $25. I like deals and that's what I got... 2 cases shipped to the door for $11.99 a box of 50, including $4.50 for full insurance.

                        I've shot thousands of rounds of this stuff and it works fine... brass-cased, too!

                        Wynn
                        Last edited by wyntrout; 05-16-2012, 07:34 PM.
                        USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
                        Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
                        Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

                        Thomas Jefferson said

                        “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
                        and

                        "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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                        • #27
                          The DOJ should butt out.

                          Holder should be impeached.
                          A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition
                          -Rudyard Kipling

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Armybrat View Post
                            The DOJ should butt out.

                            Holder should be impeached.
                            More like imprisoned. Exiled to Antartica would be ok.
                            “I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.”
                            “To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”
                            --George Mason



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                            • #29
                              I have the answer!!! buy more gun and ammo. The media reallyPPPPP me off, they are suppose to report the news not make it up. If the **** hits the fan the media should have to pay for ALL expenses!!
                              Lord!! All I want is the TRUTH!

                              The Politicians, and the media are worthless. Let's have someTRUTH.

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                              • #30
                                I was teaching a CCW class recently and was thinking about what message this case sends to folks who might be in a similar situation defending themselves. Do they now have to think "well this guy is white, so I can shoot him" or "this guy is black, so I have to die"? Do they now have to weigh the entire US government and mainstream media coming after them if they defend themselves? What a tragedy for future victims of violent crime.
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