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  • #31
    take ur earrings off and then try um!!!!! Just sayin
    . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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    • #32
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      • #33
        love the4 hat to. what aD!ck head. Just sayihn
        . My PM9 has over 34,000+ rounds through it, and runs much better than an illegal trying to get across our border


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        • #34
          thanks for the input
          no ear rings here in years. been considering them again tho, the wife loved when i had them.
          I ordered a set of the surefires and figured for the $ it was worth a shot. I also found some reviews of them and for the most part people really liked how they work. they actually are very similar to what the military is using from 3M but less $ & won a shooting product of the year award last year. we'll see, hopefully they do the trick

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          • #35
            Okay, if you can't get the muffs to seal properly, spend the extra money and get some in the ear fitted plugs. Yeah, they are expensive, but your hearing does not come back! Like many of the other posters here, I have lost some of my hearing due to shooting [mine was from a prison tower] and once it is gone, it's gone.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by DeaconKC View Post
              Okay, if you can't get the muffs to seal properly, spend the extra money and get some in the ear fitted plugs. Yeah, they are expensive, but your hearing does not come back! Like many of the other posters here, I have lost some of my hearing due to shooting [mine was from a prison tower] and once it is gone, it's gone.
              Yeah I def dont want any more nights like that. My ears rang pretty badly. The surefire sight says they have NRR 24db. My Electronic muffs say 23db. So between the better rating and hopefully better seal, I'll be all set. I'll post a review in this thread after I try them.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by DeaconKC View Post
                Okay, if you can't get the muffs to seal properly, spend the extra money and get some in the ear fitted plugs. Yeah, they are expensive, but your hearing does not come back! Like many of the other posters here, I have lost some of my hearing due to shooting [mine was from a prison tower] and once it is gone, it's gone.
                Custom fitted plugs don't offer any more protection than expandable foam plugs that cost under a dollar unless you have some form of disfigured ear canal or severe arthritis so that you can't roll the foam.
                The usual quality foam plugs offer 29 to 33 dB NRR.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by joshh View Post
                  hey guys, thanks for the input but muffs are becoming useless because for whatever reason they dont seal well when i am shooting rifles. i have tried a couple types amd am sick of wasting the $ to be disappointed. the foamies dont provide enough protection under the low roof of the range i have been shooting at. i understand that my hearing should be (and is) my priority, but i am hoping that something like these shurefire's would do the trick while still allowing me some type of awareness to whats going on around the range when its crowded. that said, i am open to suggestions on that type of product if anyone is having luck with it...
                  I had some custom molded earplugs made for me at a gun show. Every gun show I've been to had someone set up selling these. I also had them put the diffuser thingie in them so that I could hear people talk.( works kinda like the electronic ear mufflers) PLUS....earings can still be worn with these!

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                  • #39
                    I saw a BIG difference in the molded ear plugs over the foam ones.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Tinman507 View Post
                      He has his finger ON the trigger!!!
                      He values his hearing more than his life!

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                      • #41
                        sorry that i am dusting off an old thread but i have used the surefires a few times now and have to say i am quite impressed. for me, they work as advertised. i used them last weekend while shooting my AR 5.56. i had someone shooting on each side of me, one also shooting an AR with 223 and the other shooting a saiga 7.62. shots sound noticeable & sharper and not quite as "muffled" sounding as when wearing foam plugs or big muffs. but its not overly loud and does feel dangerously loud by any means. i could hear what people were saying and after being their for a few hours i had no ringing!
                        http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...earch=surefire
                        for the price ($12.56) i would recommend trying these. At some point I will have some molded plugs made with the "valve" to hear people talk, but for now, these are great

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                        • #42
                          Look at the Noise reduction rating (NRR) for the Surefires: 24 dB then look at the noise
                          level of your ammo.. around 150-165 dB NOT adding any other shooters. 165 minus 24=
                          141 dB. Think this is safe?
                          Quick answer is no. You gotta wear a pair of muffs on top of these at the range.
                          Hunting with a few shots is OK but a couple of boxes of ammo is going to cause permanent hearing loss.

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                          • #43
                            Use everything you can to dull the noise. I've spent my adult life around jet engines, race cars, motorcycles, and guns, so my hearing is shot. I ALWAYS have ranging in both ears and sometimes other noises layered on top of the ring. Until 25 or 30 years ago no one wore hearing protection, so my hearing was gone before I used ear plugs or muffs. I'm too vain [so far] to wear any aids, but I say 'what?' a lot and miss half the dialog on TV. I've become pretty good at lip reading, but it doesn't help if the person is turned away or the voice is off camera. I was in a fairly noisy restaurant last week and the person across from me had a habit of putting their hands in front of their mouth when speaking. I couldn't hear 1/4 of what they said, so I just smiled and nodded a great deal.

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                            • #44
                              I do that an awful lot too. My right ear is completely gone, I have the most powerful hearing aid available in my left. When I turn it off my riding lawnmower with blown muffler sounds like one of those Lincoln (not to be confused with Old Lincoln) commercials. The only way I know it's even running is the vibration.

                              No phones, close captioning, look at me when you talk.

                              And that constant tea kettle boiling in your ears, even the bad one will sometimes drive you batty. (constant dial tone) Feed back with the hearing machine sometimes isn't much better.

                              Like you mine was gone before hearing protection. Drag racing (on an approved track), car and motorcycle racing, all took it's toll on yours truly.

                              First ear doc I went to way way back was convinced it was from hours on end on a farm tractor. The exhaust right in my dead right ear as I looked over my left shoulder to see what I was doing. My dad was just the opposite, deaf in left but he usually looked over his right shoulder.
                              We did ok when he was on my right side, both our good ears (well sort of good) facing out.
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                              • #45
                                My ears have rung ever since I went to hear John Kay and Steppenwolf at a small performance club in Asheville, NC, back in the mid-80s. Their sound system would have worked good at Woodstock, but it was way too much in that little club.
                                Very interesting...

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