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  • #16
    Originally posted by Longitude Zero View Post
    I wish they would ALL move to the Sooner Nation. That way local dealers would have the edge on supply. As to the Feds cracking down on states it is a states rights issue and the feds have very little Constitutional wiggle room to intervene in the internal affairs of any state.
    Excuse me sir? The Constitution makes it quite clear that the federal govt does indeed have the ability and in fact the mandate to prevent the several states from violating the precepts of that document/ Else what use is the document if the states can ignore it?

    The problem we have now (as I see it anyway) is the SCOTUS ignores the document as it wishes and lets the states violate it at will so long as those states violate those portions of that document the SCOTUS wishes them to. Specifically the second amendment.

    As evidence I submit that the federal govt and the SCOTUS has interfered in the states efforts to deal with the illegal immigrant issue that the federal govt has not dealt with even tho it is the federal govts responsibility as laid out in that document.

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    • #17
      Pay no attention to JFootin. He's just one of those bitter clingers who's trying to hold on to his religion and his guns. Way to go, J.
      Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tv_racin_fan View Post
        Excuse me sir? The Constitution makes it quite clear that the federal govt does indeed have the ability and in fact the mandate to prevent the several states from violating the precepts of that document/ Else what use is the document if the states can ignore it?

        The problem we have now (as I see it anyway) is the SCOTUS ignores the document as it wishes and lets the states violate it at will so long as those states violate those portions of that document the SCOTUS wishes them to. Specifically the second amendment.

        As evidence I submit that the federal govt and the SCOTUS has interfered in the states efforts to deal with the illegal immigrant issue that the federal govt has not dealt with even tho it is the federal govts responsibility as laid out in that document.
        Amen to that brother. When the elected goverment comes to belive it can pick and choose what parts of the CONSTUTION to ignore and what parts to enforce with fury, then it's time for them to go.
        Every goverment ignores or inubes some laws. Spitting on the sidewalk, leaving your trashcan on the curb too long even crossing the street aginst the light. Thats not the samething we have seen out of Washington lately.
        Guess we will find out how the rest of America feels about it soon enough.
        I was once asked if I was "a paranoid for carrying my Kahr".
        "Nope" I said, "just prepared".
        " prepared for what" he asked?
        "more stuff than you are"
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        • #19
          Originally posted by tv_racin_fan View Post
          Excuse me sir? The Constitution makes it quite clear that the federal govt does indeed have the ability and in fact the mandate to prevent the several states from violating the precepts of that document/ Else what use is the document if the states can ignore it?

          The problem we have now (as I see it anyway) is the SCOTUS ignores the document as it wishes and lets the states violate it at will so long as those states violate those portions of that document the SCOTUS wishes them to. Specifically the second amendment.

          As evidence I submit that the federal govt and the SCOTUS has interfered in the states efforts to deal with the illegal immigrant issue that the federal govt has not dealt with even tho it is the federal govts responsibility as laid out in that document.
          In LZ's defense, he said INTERNAL affairs of the states. I'll have to agree w/ that. There is a difference in the purpose of the Consititution to replace the AoC w/ something that had teeth to get the states to participate in the federal government. It's entirely another to have the federal government control the states in their entirety...which is where we've been heading for 100+ years.
          Last edited by chrish; 08-28-2012, 11:48 PM.

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          • #20
            It seems to me that the drafters of our constitution knew that there would be some idiots out there trying to trash this 2nd amendment when they added those six little words "that right SHALL NOT be infringed". I'm still confused even with states rights how they can get around the SHALL NOT be infringed. Just my opinion of course I could be wrong.
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