close encounter of the fuzzy kind

[Bawanna]

I thought cats are pretty tender skinned, but there I go thinking again.

They are indeed tender skinned but they are wicked slippery and quick moving critters.

Probably as good a chance with a 9 and anything. A 44 etc, maybe the concussion would help spook it but a hit ain't likely if its inbound for an attack.

Not big on the 410 Judge but I still think next to a short barrel 12 ga it's the next best thing. I suspect any gunshot might have a deterrent effect maybe too.

As quick and quiet as they are I suspect most won't even see it coming.

Its life, you can get killed crossing the street or eaten by a Cougar on a mtn trail. I'll take the mtn trail everytime.

PS: As for the PC folks from Seattle and Bellevue who might be offended by a shotgun, I'd carry it anyhow just to piss them off. I can be such a rabble rouser sometimes.

[Alfonse]

PS: As for the PC folks from Seattle and Bellevue who might be offended by a shotgun, I'd carry it anyhow just to piss them off. I can be such a rabble rouser sometimes.

I certainly agree with that. It's all about the entertainment!

[Tinman507]

[Planedude]

Dang Bwanna, just do the "Mares leg" in at least 44mag. At the last gun show, I saw alot of cool holsters/scabbards that would look right smart lashed to the ol chair...

[pudge]

They are ... it doesn't take a big gun to kill one. But them suckers are mighty hard to hit if they are moving, especially toward you and attacking at close range!!!!

You have to hit one to stop him, whether it's attacking or running away, and that's mighty hard to do with any kind of gun, especially a handgun. A .22LR will do nicely if the cat's up a tree and being relatively still. Moving like a cat can do is another thing altogether!

[yqtszhj]

Starbug, enjoy your hikes and along with ur pistol get you a big knife too. I know what you mean about the critters being everywhere too. All hikers take that chance. We went hiking around the black canyon in Colorado and saw a ranger heavily armed and with body armor. I asked him what it was all about and along with 2 legged critters there are 4 legged ones too. Didn't think to ask him if the musky smell we noticed when hiking was from a cat or something like that.

[Starbug]

They are indeed tender skinned but they are wicked slippery and quick moving critters.

Probably as good a chance with a 9 and anything. A 44 etc, maybe the concussion would help spook it but a hit ain't likely if its inbound for an attack.

Not big on the 410 Judge but I still think next to a short barrel 12 ga it's the next best thing. I suspect any gunshot might have a deterrent effect maybe too.

As quick and quiet as they are I suspect most won't even see it coming.

Its life, you can get killed crossing the street or eaten by a Cougar on a mtn trail. I'll take the mtn trail everytime.

PS: As for the PC folks from Seattle and Bellevue who might be offended by a shotgun, I'd carry it anyhow just to piss them off. I can be such a rabble rouser sometimes.

LOL, I do admit to liking the idea of carrying a shotgun just to piss them off. A part of me would enjoy it. The other part would be annoyed at being stopped constantly to explain myself, and possibly also to explain myself to a cop/ranger.

I should also point out that all the kids waiting for the school bus at 6:30am are at risk of being taken by a cougar. It's dark, and there would be 1-4 kids per stop. Alone, unarmed, and prone to running if a predator came up, which would make them look even more like food. So like Bawanna said, it's the risk people take when they choose to live far outside the big cities and out in the wilderness. You can be killed by a car, another person, or an animal; that's life. Walking home from night classes at a college in a big city (common occurrence in Seattle) puts you at risk of being mugged, killed, raped, or beaten by another person. And yet people don't stop taking night classes and walking home. Been a rash of such crimes lately in Seattle. Life is full of risks, no matter what you do or where you go.

[Starbug]

Starbug, enjoy your hikes and along with ur pistol get you a big knife too. I know what you mean about the critters being everywhere too. All hikers take that chance. We went hiking around the black canyon in Colorado and saw a ranger heavily armed and with body armor. I asked him what it was all about and along with 2 legged critters there are 4 legged ones too. Didn't think to ask him if the musky smell we noticed when hiking was from a cat or something like that.

Being heavily armed and wearing body armor is a good idea when you spend 8+ hours out in the woods, as rangers do. Can't say I blame him!

I bet the musky smell you smelled out there was cougar spray from a cat marking it's territory. Although I guess it could have been anything, really. I'm no expert.

Actually, a big knife is next on my list of things to get. My hiking partner and I were talking today about going up to Cabelas and picking up a big knife. We've always wanted to check out a Cabelas anyway, and this just gives us an excuse to go there. It's just really, really far away....

[TucsonMTB]

Life is full of risks, no matter what you do or where you go.

Yep! Couldn't agree more. If we built airplanes strong enough to be certain they would survive a crash, they would never get off the ground.

I do a lot of bicycling, mostly on lightly traveled roads. But, they are narrow so it is necessary to trust that motorists will not destroy me and my ultra-light carbon fiber steed with their two ton missiles. Is it safe? Probably not. But, a wise lady once told me, "Life is full of risks, no matter what you do or where you go." That would be you.

Life is good!

[Gliderguy]

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just caught on that this was western Washington we are talking about. I never saw so much wildlife as when I lived in Snoqualmie. A herd of 60 or so elk was regularly seen in the open field right next to the high school, and my wife and I both saw a smallish black bear sow with one cub on the walking trail that goes through the woods and ********** thickets right around our subdivision. I think a shotgun is the ideal weapon if you were actively stalking the cat, otherwise a good revolver in 357 that cannot be pushed out of battery if it becomes a direct contact event would be my realistic choice. Normal PD ammo should work on a 200 pound cat just as good as a 200 pound homicidal meth-head. Medium bears or other animals that out weigh you by double or more would dictate a heavier, deeper penetrating round. At concealable handgun energy levels expansion becomes secondary for those cases.

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[Gliderguy]

B l a c k b e r r y is a filtered word on this forum?

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[Tinman507]

Yes, we're very pro Android and iPhone here.

[GROTMAN]

Bet this process would speed up if she just turned around...

[jocko]

oh now that is a good one grotman.

[Starbug]

I just caught on that this was western Washington we are talking about. I never saw so much wildlife as when I lived in Snoqualmie. A herd of 60 or so elk was regularly seen in the open field right next to the high school, and my wife and I both saw a smallish black bear sow with one cub on the walking trail that goes through the woods and ********** thickets right around our subdivision. I think a shotgun is the ideal weapon if you were actively stalking the cat, otherwise a good revolver in 357 that cannot be pushed out of battery if it becomes a direct contact event would be my realistic choice. Normal PD ammo should work on a 200 pound cat just as good as a 200 pound homicidal meth-head. Medium bears or other animals that out weigh you by double or more would dictate a heavier, deeper penetrating round. At concealable handgun energy levels expansion becomes secondary for those cases.

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Yup, talking about Western WA. Oh yes, I have seen those very elk numerous times. Sometimes you can see hundreds of them in that huge field not far from the Milk Barn (towards North Bend). Back when I commuted to Redmond, I'd take highway 202 through Snoqualmie since freeway-to-Issaquah-to-Redmond traffic would be ass. I think I saw your sow black bear one morning, but I didn't see a cub since I had to pay attention to the road, so only got a quick glance at her. She was in a large field, near the edge of the woods.

On my way to work the other morning a huge herd of elk walked right across the road, stopping traffic. It's too bad I didn't have enough time to snap some pics to post here; they were a few streets ahead of the road I needed to turn down for work. If I'd had a few extra minutes, I could have gone down to where they were, snapped pics, waited until the last elk had finally crossed, and then taken a detour back to where I needed to be. I keep telling my boss that he should give out hunting tags for his yard since he keeps finding herds there every morning, and one of the bulls has a HUGE rack, and the body is extremely huge and muscular as well. It sounds like a perfect trophy animal. For obvious reasons, he's not going to declare open season in his yard (house w/kids and pets), but we do joke with him that it would be a great way to make a few extra $$.

Bet this process would speed up if she just turned around...

Since that is a lioness behind this woman: Quoting Jurassic Park 1, when the game hunter is stalking the Velociraptors, and he suddenly realizes that the 'raptor is in the bushes right next to him, and they are face to face.... "Clever girl...." (and then it attacks him)