Not sure how many teachers we have on the forum, but those that are would you carry while at work if it were legal? Those who have kids, would you send your kids to a school that allowed this?
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I have the feeling and am of the mindset that teachers/staff "carrying" maybe the only workable soloution to this problem.
When this opinion was brought up before a group of "rights-haters" it was met with the whole row of catcalls and guffaws. Still, I stand by this postion, while these schools shootings are horrible, they are the tiniest fraction of what endangers our kids in schools each day. School admins know this and have spent their dwindling dollars on things other than armed cops to roam the hallways. The unfourtunate truth is we as a nation will demand school cops, but balk at paying for them. Once the memeory of Sandy Hook fades we will demand our schools bring up test scores and improve sports or band or the arts in our schools. Bored school cops will be caught anywhere but schools by the story hungry media and todays outrage will be replaced by a different outrage.
Those sorry lowlifes that would plot to do harm at a school should be expected to study their targets. In every shooting that I remember, the shooter(s) were very framilar with the target. Am I to belive that a badguy would never have a plan to deal with ONE armed officer? If this person(s) takes out the only officer at the start, then what?
I feel an unknown number of teachers/staff that carry represent a better deterrent. They would need extra tranning and leagl coverage under the law from a sue happy world that will judge them afterwords based on what the media pumps out. When I hear from teachers (my daughter is one) about carry, it is the liability of what happens "after the fact" that stops them from thinking they could. We as a nation can fix that. School districts will find alot of help in the trainning department from the shooting comunity. I feel a liability rider on the insurance (coverage for the rarest event that might ever happen) must be cheaper than a full time security staff whose pay/benefits will not be minor.
And an unknown number of folks willing and able to shoot back at the BG should bring him to pause...
...But if they are nutty enough, only a well aimed shot may stop them.
Very sad, but true. As the father of a teacher, I wish the world was very different. I offer prayers for a safer world for our children and the school staff that cares enough to guide them.I was once asked if I was "a paranoid for carrying my Kahr".
"Nope" I said, "just prepared".
" prepared for what" he asked?
"more stuff than you are"
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I'm not a teacher, but I do have kids presently in school, a sophomore in college and a 3rd grader. I'd absolutely send them to a school that allowed the teachers to carry and feel like they were much safer because of it. But I don't feel like teachers should be pressured into carrying. I think the schools should provide security be it in the form of a LEO, retired LEO, or other means.”Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security.”
Ben Franklin
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+1. I am not a teacher either but I have 2 young boys and I would feel safer if someone in that school was armed.Originally posted by KoolBreeze View PostI'm not a teacher, but I do have kids presently in school, a sophomore in college and a 3rd grader. I'd absolutely send them to a school that allowed the teachers to carry and feel like they were much safer because of it. But I don't feel like teachers should be pressured into carrying. I think the schools should provide security be it in the form of a LEO, retired LEO, or other means.
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If I was a teacher who loved teaching children and cared about there safety, then yes I would gladly step up to the plate and CC a firearm to insure there safety. However I do have questions about law suits that could arise because a teacher was viewed as doing to much or to little in a situation when the bullets start flying.
I do believe that there should be no advertising that anyplace is a gun free zone. These signs are the worst thing we could possibly do to insure anyones safety. I just do not understand how anyone could possibly think that a Gun free zone sticker is going to stop anyone who is out to create problems. Gun free stickers might stop your average law abiding citizen from carrying a gun on school grounds.
However is that what we really need or want to do if an emergency starts and we need people who can possibly stop the threat. Not in my world.To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first and call whatever you hit the target.
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My wife was a 2nd grade teacher for 35 years. She said she wouldn't carry, because she was afraid that one of her students might go for her gun and try to pistol whip her. The kids from Cleveland can be pretty rough. Seriously, she never felt the need until the recent school shootings.Originally posted by CM9carry View PostNot sure how many teachers we have on the forum, but those that are would you carry while at work if it were legal? Those who have kids, would you send your kids to a school that allowed this?Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.
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I don't think there is anything different about teaching,
with any other occupation, in respect to concealed carry.
Most of us with permits are not allowed to carry at work.
Most of us would carry if it were allowed.
Granted, the ridiculous gun free zone shooting galleries,
that schools are a part of, puts those places at greater risk.Last edited by Barth; 01-21-2013, 08:07 AM.
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Am a retired teacher, but would have carried if allowed back in the day.
However, this H&R 12 Ga. with 19" bbl & 00 buck was always stashed in the hidden floor rack of my truck parked in the street about 20' away from my portable classroom:

It now resides in the closet next to the computer work station in my home office.A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition
-Rudyard Kipling
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I'm a Rhode Island school high school teacher, and it is legal to carry with a valid RI permit. However, it's still against the district weapons policy without administrative approval, thus I'd still lose my job. But would I carry with permission? Absolutely!
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I would definitely allow or encourage my son to attend a school that allowed CCW to operate in the school. Students would not know and it would definitely go along way to de-establishing the gun free zones (a.k.a. free kill zones) here in Washington State.
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As a retired teacher and administrator I would have carried if allowed by district policy. I did keep a loaded gun locked up in my car as an administrator as I had reserved parking right outside my office door.
If properly trained and with the right mindset, I would encourage teachers to consider if allowed. My fear is that it may be kept off person, in a purse or pack and be found by a student. I have seen too many items stolen over the years by students in places they shouldn't have been.
In a lot of our rural schools our bus drivers and maintenance staff are also volunteer firemen or search and rescue. I would encourage them to also be trained and armed if able and willing.
I do have a real problem with armed parents visiting schools. That is something that I really don't want to see.
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