new cm40 follower destroyed

[jascott]

just bought a cm40 yesterday .got home to shoot it,and after two rounds the slide jammed back very tight. took mag out to see what was going on and of coarse there was something rattling inside my mag. and my luck i only have one mag . i purchased this to carry when i dont feel like hauling the g27 around. now i dont feel as i can trust this pistol.

[jocko]

email kahr, attn. Jay state ur case to him. they will send u a new follower no charge. keep the broken parts and if it happens again, email/call kahr and ask the to send a pre paid to pickup thegun and fix it right..

[skeeter7]

Same thing happened to me. Bought the gun yesterday, shot it today, broken follower. Unreal.

[tv_racin_fan]

How exactly did the follower break? What I mean is did it just flat out break in half? Or did the little metal piece break out of the plastic?

The reason I ask is because of the unique feature of a Kahr. See the metal part in the follower is what catches the slide stop and locks the slide back. It seems to me that if someone were to force the slide stop to release the slide with the slide locked, and an empty mag in the well, that one could easily break that metal piece out. On a Kahr the slide stop is near impossible to release the slide on an empty mag, the idea is in time of need this lets you know that the mag you are trying to load a round from is empty. Last thing you want in that sort of situation is to re employ an empty mag which would be very easy to attempt. It would be entirely possible that either a customer or the sales clerk didn't know this and they would attempt to force it to release. A few forces could very easily break out that metal piece. IMHO.

[jocko]

naw not really that is a well enforced area. Never heard of oe ever breakin jin that area due to what ur talking about. I have seen a few in the past where that metal insert actually came loose and caused issues.

IMO the cause of these busted followers is the feed ramp breaking the front portion of the follower, when the slide is retracting after the boom thing and whenthe magazine is now empty and the follower is now at the top of the magazine and is exposed to the feed ramp when the barrel is caming downward. On some of the kahrs, there just is not enough clearance and the feed ramp is just bashng that follower and busting it. Most kahrs have no issues here either but those that do and IMO. like I have stated before. Bust one, replace it and move on, bust two, get concerned. bust 3, damn gun needs to go back. Kahr then does some modfying to the feed ramp to get this clearance. Sumpin the owner should never do himself.

I realize we read more of it lately than we did some months back and it seems to me anyhow it is more prevelant in the 40 cal kahrs more than any other. Again my thoughts only so take it with a grain of sale but there is just such a terrific explosion when that 40 cal goes bang that the clearance in these small frame kahrs on some and not all, is just not enough to let that feed ramp do its wok without busting the followers.

Only way that is gonna get busted is on the very last round to, as long as it is in the magazine tube, it is safe from the feed ramp. IMO it is happening to damn much lately, but what the hell do I know I realize fixes just don't happen over night either and I hope to hell kahr is working on this issue.

I had one bust in my PMJ9 and I have had it over 5 years and over 32K rounds through it, Why did just one break and no more??? beats the hell outta me.

[jascott]

i loaded 5 rds in the mag ,chambered one, shot it twice ,after the second round went off it ejected the case and jammed on top of the 3rd rounds case. (could barely get slide off the top of the round. finally got slide free and chambered third round then released mag to check everything, magwas stuck pretty tight but got it out, looked fine so put it back in and shot last 3 rounds just fine. didnt realize follower damage till got back inside.

[muggsy]

I see a problem begging for a solution. If someone came up with a better mouse trap he could make a fortune right here on this forum. Who is going to design and manufacture a better follower for Kahr Pistols? Do I see any hands?

[jascott]

im actually going to take the follower they send me to my buddy who is a machinist and see if he can make me one. or find a way to reinforce that front lip.

[LorenzoB]

new cm40 follower destroyed

Hey guys! I've been gone for a while and haven't posted anything in months. Super busy with work and family. Anyway, a custom CNC machined follower is on my short list of gun things to make. I did the mag baseplate for my CW9 (still working on refinements for other guns and an alternate design). I did some CW9 guide rods too. I plan to build a store and support Kahr owners with these parts and improvements. I just bought a PM9 and a K9, so more custom parts will be coming down the pike.

[JimC]

just bought a cm40 yesterday .got home to shoot it,and after two rounds the slide jammed back very tight. took mag out to see what was going on and of coarse there was something rattling inside my mag. and my luck i only have one mag . i purchased this to carry when i dont feel like hauling the g27 around. now i dont feel as i can trust this pistol.

My PM9 isn't a .40 but it's back to Kahr for the very same problem and I've been back to my G27 for quite awhile now, I can trust it and the mags.

PM9 Back To Kahr

[JimC]

I see a problem begging for a solution. If someone came up with a better mouse trap he could make a fortune right here on this forum. Who is going to design and manufacture a better follower for Kahr Pistols? Do I see any hands?

Kahr might be better off if they used light weight metal for their followers seeing as how the small pistols seem to be hard on plastic.

[jocko]

maybe

I see a problem begging for a solution. If someone came up with a better mouse trap he could make a fortune right here on this forum. Who is going to design and manufacture a better follower for Kahr Pistols? Do I see any hands?

if I am right and I could be wrong but if it is the feed ramp crashing into the follower, putting a steel one in to me is not the solution. Ur still gonna get the bashing and certainly then it will lead to something worse happening. If it can bash that steel follower and get away with it, then is it gonna bust out the backof the magazines, which I think at one time we had that happening to. The barrel has to go through its complete cycle and if the feed ramp is bashing throough these plastic followers to get through its cycle, then to put in a steel on is gonna hinder that barrel from completing its full cycle and ur gonna get some other type of issue. More than like then a feed isssue.

Its not IMO a week follower. Nothing is supposed to hit followers PERIOD.

When kahr takes back a gun that is doing this, they are modifying sumpin to allow this clearance. My thoughts are it is the bottom of the feed ramp a tad.
there is more feed ramp there than is actully needed. Just my analysis. YMMV If u got one of the guns doing this, bite the bullet, call kahr insist they pick it up ad let them fix it right. To me making a steel follower is putting a bandage on the solution.. Not much protection if it is sitting inside ones safe. Just sayin

[LorenzoB]

new cm40 follower destroyed

It seems as of late there are more follower issues. Maybe there is something wrong with their injection mold. I had this issue in our business with some plastic parts. We had a mold that made 4 parts at the same time and after a while we were getting some failures (close to 25%). One of the cavities on the mold was messed up, so we stopped using parts from that cavity until we could make a new mold.

[LorenzoB]

new cm40 follower destroyed

It would be good if people who have broken followers to take a photo to document where the break is happening and what the break looks like and maybe it will help us all (and Kahr if they are reading) figure out why this is happening.

[jascott]

i believe it is the same piece on everyones followers which is the front lip ,which when broken exposes the mag spring and also causing the follower to sit wrong angle wise in the mag . its a known isse by kahr ,they just havent taken the time to resolve it.