Guys pushing the envelope but interesting

[rhd04]

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=135825546591540. Any opinions?

[ESAFO]

well he deffinetly knows his rights & now adays alot of cc members do follow up on there rights, however there is no harm in the law doing there job to protect & serve as we want them to do.

[ltxi]

interesting

[jocko]

oh he had his rights and he set that cop u to, so didhe prove a point??? Sure hope he doesn't live in that town, he is a marked man.

I would suspect that here in Indiana and if u walk down the streets of Indianapolis where cops are on damn near every corne with an exposed handgun and a legal carry permit thatyour gonna get challended by every cop,and 8 out or 10 will be a$$holes towards you, once u start throwing all those legal law cases at them. Often we don't realize that they deal with violenece every day and any guy with a gun will not set well with them. Is it ur right, probably yes. IS IT SMART??? well u answer that part.
I know I have a lifetime CCW poermit in Indiana and I would never challenge the system with an exposed gun....

I'm just guessin here but I wuld surmise that in that city or town or what ever that openc arry even though legal is just ot sumpin that cops sees alot if ever, . I also realize that some leo's feel we should not be ableto have a gun on us either, only they should have that right, which is dead ass wrong.. Just sayin

[muggsy]

As far as I'm concerned the guy was being a Fokking a-hole for no reason. If he ever needs the assistance of a police officer, I hope it's this police officer who responds to his call. Every gun owner worth his salt should support his local police instead of trying to make an ass of them. He only succeeded in making an ass of himself.

[RRP]

I agree with Muggsy. This guy was indeed being an a-hole. Youtube is loaded with videos of guys who intentionally bait cops by openly carrying and refusing to cooperate while capturing the encounter on camera.

In my opinion, this type of behavior gives conceal carrying law abiding citizens a bad name. Generally speaking, the cops I know support gun rights. But if they have to deal with encounters like this every day, their support for our right to bear arms may begin to wane.

[tv_racin_fan]

These type threads always come down to hatin on guys who open carry.

WHY? The man is walking down the street not doing anything illegal. The nice officer should be able to see that from his car and not even bother the guy.

I am sure glad the nice officers in my area aint like that when I am out and about. They just look at me and assess that I aint up to nothing bad and go on about their business. Course if the nice officer asks me for my permit and ID I will probably show it to him. IF he comes over to me and tries to take my firearm off my side he may have an issue depending on my mood at the time.

[itsthelaw]

LEOs have the responsibility to know the laws they are enforcing. I cannot imagine being a LEO and getting sucked into this one with all the instances and videos. This video has purpose beyond poking fun at the officer. Would I do it? Nope. Do I think it serves the good of the people of that state? Yep.

[swilcher7]

As a former LEO in SWPA I'd like to respond. Yes, open carry is legal here. In the past few years I have seen it more now than ever, and some of the people I see doing it should NOT be carrying a gun. I've seen some POORLY secured guns hanging from belts, shoulders ect. And also, once your get in a vehicle and close the door, that gun is now considered CONCEALED. Most people I know and have dealt with have concealed carry permits. But here's a thought too. Is he/she carrying open because they were denied a permit? Most permit denials can also be the reason you are denied a firearm on the background check as well. So you have no way of knowing if this person is legally able to carry unless you question them. I'm not saying that all people openly carrying were denied a permit. I think it is worth your while to go and get a permit just to save yourself any headaches. Having dealt with persons either with stolen firearms or carrying without a "license" here, I don't have a problem with questioning someone. And I agree some of these clowns do make it harder on legal owners with their behavior.

[getsome]

I don't have a problem with open carry if you live in a rural area or a small town where the Police know you and understand you're an ok guy and not up to no good but I hate to see these A-Holes baiting the Police and being a smart ass on video to a Police Officer just trying to do his or her job....

This to me is no different than some punk riding a crotch rocket motorcycle doing a wheelie down the road and arguing with the Police Officer who stops him that he was not speeding and was maintaining his lane and the LAW does not specifically say that both wheels have to be on the ground at the same time, its a stupid argument and it makes the public think all motorcycle riders are bad....I hate to see people open carry just to film themselves and get on Youtube to show his stupid buddies what a big man he was to stand up to the cops...I think it's a very bad example and harms folks that want to CCW legally and mind their own business....This type of behavior harms the gun culture way more than it helps and is not good for our cause....

[jocko]

I don't think anyone here myself included feel that if u have the right to open carry that you should be deprived of it because of what we think. I guess my point has been stated to many times. Why seek attention to you when it is not needed. every LEO is gonna look at u with a suspicious eye, whether he does anything or not is besides the point. It certainy does make the majority of people nevrvous when walking around with a open carry. No doubt in some states it is far more prevelant so maybe the nevervous factor is not so bad either. But I can tell u in Indiana it makes people nervous BIG TIME, it also will draw cops attention to you faster than if u had ur d!ck hanging out exposed. So yes it is ur right and in some states ur gonna have to able to repeat that time and time again to
I ride every day 24 miles for coffee on my Harley and I pass and wave to many state cops who know me and many city cops who do't know me. the last thing I wantt o do is piss one off over my legal rights and then have the entire BLUE looking for me every day. I never thought of some of the things swicher stated, but now we are gettinghis view of it and that should mean sumpin.

I also feel most LEO'S know the law, so if they approach u and ur civil and can produce the proper documentation that he will just go on his way and that will be it. there not all a$$holes. I have road Harleys with 3 of them for awhile and when we are out o an open road, the limit is never talked about either. They understand.. common sense normally prevails in almost all cases to..

I am not trying to step on anyone's right either, one must do what one must do...

[muggsy]

These type threads always come down to hatin on guys who open carry.

WHY? The man is walking down the street not doing anything illegal. The nice officer should be able to see that from his car and not even bother the guy.

I am sure glad the nice officers in my area aint like that when I am out and about. They just look at me and assess that I aint up to nothing bad and go on about their business. Course if the nice officer asks me for my permit and ID I will probably show it to him. IF he comes over to me and tries to take my firearm off my side he may have an issue depending on my mood at the time.

And if that a-hole rounds the corner and opens up on a bunch of kids leaving school you'd be the first at ask why the cop didn't do anything. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I have no use for street lawyers. The officer was being polite and making a reasonable inquiry. The open carry advocate was being an a-hole. Depending upon your mood at the time you could be lying in a pool of your own blood. You don't screw with the police. It's not a good policy

[O'Dell]

And if that a-hole rounds the corner and opens up on a bunch of kids leaving school you'd be the first at ask why the cop didn't do anything. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I have no use for street lawyers. The officer was being polite and making a reasonable inquiry. The open carry advocate was being an a-hole. Depending upon your mood at the time you could be lying in a pool of your own blood. You don't screw with the police. It's not a good policy

Good, muggsy. I'm always polite to LEO's and IRS agents. Both have way too much power over me.

BTW, the courts have ruled that the police have no duty to protect, only to investigate after the fact.

[jocko]

muggsy muggsy

And if that a-hole rounds the corner and opens up on a bunch of kids leaving school you'd be the first at ask why the cop didn't do anything. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I have no use for street lawyers. The officer was being polite and making a reasonable inquiry. The open carry advocate was being an a-hole. Depending upon your mood at the time you could be lying in a pool of your own blood. You don't screw with the police. It's not a good policy

ur getting to polite anymore. u need to be more eleguont and smooth.

Just trying to make u a better person.some members here do need alot of consouling.Just sayin

[muggsy]

Good, muggsy. I'm always polite to LEO's and IRS agents. Both have way too much power over me.

BTW, the courts have ruled that the police have no duty to protect, only to investigate after the fact.

The police have no more power than we the people grant them. I'm polite and cooperative with LEOs, because I respect what they do for the community. They don't have a duty to protect according to the Supreme Court, but many of them have given their lives doing just that. I've never met a police officer who didn't treat me with the utmost respect.