For those who include a knife in their everyday carry

[Powrstroke6.0]

Great video, thanks for sharing.

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[AIRret]

Thanks Knkali, great post.
I'll have to send this to a new shooter that we worked with this week.
We spent Monday evening talking and demonstrating safety principals and dry firing.
Then Tue we went to the range. It went well. But in our discussions he was surprised at the distance at which you are NOT safe and DO NOT have enough time to react.

[AIRret]

I read that as interpretation mostly on the no fixed blade knife thing. I can see dirks, double edged, stabbing but a small fixed blade knife with a single edge should be ok. Maybe not. The way that is written there must have been 10 lawyers involved.

You can carry over 3" as long as you don't plan to harm anyone, who writes something like that. OK, I don't plan to hurt anyone today so I can carry my kukri.

Lawyers are another species!!!!

I bet the reason Michigan changed from a CCW to a CPL is lawyers and the effort to specifically limit what weapons a person will be able to carry for self defense!

[addictedhealer]

For those who include a knife in their everyday carry

I carry this sideways on @ 10 o'clock. Benchmade Push Dagger for slashing and punching. Double edge, check your laws though.
Also carry a Benchmade Griptilian.

[ParabellumJ]

For those who include a knife in their everyday carry

Lawyers are another species!!!!

I bet the reason Michigan changed from a CCW to a CPL is lawyers and the effort to specifically limit what weapons a person will be able to carry for self defense!

I know for a fact this is exactly why it's now a CPL and not a CCW.

[AIRret]

I know for a fact this is exactly why it's now a CPL and not a CCW.

Can you elaborate?
Thanks

[ParabellumJ]

For those who include a knife in their everyday carry

Can you elaborate?
Thanks

A LEO explained to me during a training class that the law was changed because people would carry ANY weapon concealed. This included swords, throwing stars, daggers, pretty much anything you could think of people would conceal it. So Michigan changed the law to pistols only. So now we have our current Concealed Pistol License rather than the former Concealed Weapons law.

[ParabellumJ]

For those who include a knife in their everyday carry

So it's legal for me to carry a loaded pistol, but illegal to carry a Ka-Bar TDI. Makes sense huh?

[Bawanna]

Did the very same thing in Washington.

I felt the CWL was a good thing and worked as designed. It sort of says your a good guy, a civilian badge of honor so to speak.

But apparently it was too much honor so they had to put limitations on it.

[OldLincoln]

Can't do knives so I picked up a mini-sized 15% pepper spray today. Figure I can get it ready as fast as I could a knife and reach further. Besides I can defend against dogs when walking the wife.

[AIRret]

So it's legal for me to carry a loaded pistol, but illegal to carry a Ka-Bar TDI. Makes sense huh?

Makes as much sense as anything else the governments been doing lately!

I carry pepper spray about %80 of the time and I have a kubaton that lives in my pocket or purse. I have very limited training with it, but I treat it as a jabbing tool. I had a friend raped because a guy came up behind her while she was trying to get into her car. I have it in my right hand (which is stronger but is my off hand) when walking through parking lots or deserted hallways, those hallways are most commonly in the VA where I can't carry!
Masaad Ayoob told me that if it has a flat ends it's not considered a weapon.

[Bawanna]

I made several kubatons for some of the girls and a few guys at work. One had it taken away from her by TSA. Said it was a weapon. Didn't bother the lady with knitting needles or the kid a few back that had drum sticks.

Silly TSA agents, Twix are for kids.

I made her a new one.

Funny now I have a lathe but haven't made any. All the ones I made were by hand with a rasp and a file.

[AIRret]

Kubatons are a nice option when a person can't carry anything else.
Masaad said that thin mag light works just as well and you can even take one into court.

I just wish I could find some good local training. I know that there is so much more that can be done with a kubatons.

Bawanna, make up some kubatons and sale them on the forum. I'm sure there would be a good market for them and you wouldn't even need stabilized wood (I think).

[MarkT]

Kubatons are a nice option when a person can't carry anything else.
Masaad said that thin mag light works just as well and you can even take one into court.

I just wish I could find some good local training. I know that there is so much more that can be done with a kubatons.

Bawanna, make up some kubatons and sale them on the forum. I'm sure there would be a good market for them and you wouldn't even need stabilized wood (I think).

A good pen can also be used as a kubotan.

[wyntrout]

Remember those Bic pen commercials from the 60's or so? They would use them for different things like poking holes in pop can tops. I don't think they're that strong anymore, though. The ballpoint was held by a metal nose. Now everything is plastic.

Wynn