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  • #16
    Good topic Harry Lee. I do it regular when dry firing.

    I used to have a crimson trace on a .380 I carried and I could pull and pocket fire from a pocket in about 2 seconds and see where the laser stopped. Now if I have my CM9 in my pocket it's a bit more testing to make it in 2 seconds but if I have the CM9 or CW45 IWB about 2 seconds is all it takes.
    The only thing better than having all the guns and ammo you'd ever need would be being able to shoot it all off the back porch.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JimC View Post
      IMO, a laser sight is all but useless for normal CQB distances. Highly over rated but useful in some situations on some firearms.

      Many shooters spend more time trying to keep the laser from bouncing around on the target then they do actually shooting.
      "But useful in some situations on some firearms." Agreed. That's why I have one. Also useful for dry fire practice and practice drawing from conceal...which is what this thread is about. Most understand there are situations where a CTL is useless. But as long as there are situations where it is useful, I will have one on my CCW. The shooters that spend time trying to keep the laser from bouncing, quickly learn from the laser how to stop the bouncing via dry fire practice. It becomes immediately obvious as soon as you put the laser on. It is a great tool to correct that issue. Then when they are at the range, be it competition or casual shooting, they spend their time on doing the actual shooting. The laser is useless to me on the range in bright light. I find it most useful when the light is very low and for very close ranges for point and shoot (without the need for sights). But don't listen to me because I am not an expert.....Watch Crimson's videos and see what the real experts have to say. JMO.
      My Sword - PM4044N/CTL/Talons
      - "One should diligently train at all times." Miyamoto Musashi
      - "Train in technique until it requires no thought - no mind and just happens." Takan Soho
      - "The truth beyond the technique....Here's where we stop thinking and start shooting." Brian Enos
      - "A single sword against the cold sky." Yamaoka Tesshu
      - "You must concentrate upon and consecrate yourself wholly to each day, as though a fire were raging in your hair."
      Taisen Deshimaru
      - "Know your sword!"

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      • #18
        Every day 3 sets of 10 reps in front of the mirror practicing my scowl. I got the lookin' mean and ugly part down to a science.
        Never trust anyone who doesn't trust you to own a gun.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by garyb View Post
          "But useful in some situations on some firearms." Agreed. That's why I have one. Also useful for dry fire practice and practice drawing from conceal...which is what this thread is about. Most understand there are situations where a CTL is useless. But as long as there are situations where it is useful, I will have one on my CCW. The shooters that spend time trying to keep the laser from bouncing, quickly learn from the laser how to stop the bouncing via dry fire practice. It becomes immediately obvious as soon as you put the laser on. It is a great tool to correct that issue. Then when they are at the range, be it competition or casual shooting, they spend their time on doing the actual shooting. The laser is useless to me on the range in bright light. I find it most useful when the light is very low and for very close ranges for point and shoot (without the need for sights). But don't listen to me because I am not an expert.....Watch Crimson's videos and see what the real experts have to say. JMO.
          As long as it floats your boat, there you have it.

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          • #20
            Yes! I believe that clear, draw, point (yes, I said point) are perhaps the most important things for a CC holder to practice. Nice thing is it can be done without live ammo though for a semi you're not going to simulate double taps, etc. Most of my "shooting" is actually done with gas blowback Airsoft guns. I've got both a Airsoft G26 and a XDM compact .45 with which to practice.

            I have my own backyard range but rarely practice clear, draw, point and shoot with live fire. The few times I do it is done very slowly with just myself doing the shooting.

            Wish I could add an Airsoft Kahr PM9 to my G26 and XDM collection.

            Ps. Big fan of pocket carry then AIWB. I believe all carry positions, holster types, etc. have their pros and cons, pluses and minuses.
            "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know."
            Ralph Waldo Emerson

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            • #21
              I haven't missed this target yet...

              A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition
              -Rudyard Kipling

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