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[muggsy]

I have received some criticism lately for suggesting that people who are having problems with the functioning of their Kahr pistols send them back to the manufacturer for repair under warranty. It's not that I really give a damn what any of you think, but I felt that I owed it to you to explain my position. First, not everyone is a gunsmith or even mechanically inclined. Second, the owners manual expressly states that you can void your warranty if you modify the pistol in any way. Third, if we keep repairing the guns on our own the manufacture, absent our feed back, will never correct the problems on their own. It's your gun and you can do with it as you like. Far be it from me to tell you what to do.
Your humble servant,
Muggsy

[DavidS]

I have never been one to do the manufacturer's job. They provide the warranty, they fix it under their warranty.

[knkali]

I have received some criticism lately for suggesting that people who are having problems with the functioning of their Kahr pistols send them back to the manufacturer for repair under warranty. It's not that I really give a damn what any of you think, but I felt that I owed it to you to explain my position. First, not everyone is a gunsmith or even mechanically inclined. Second, the owners manual expressly states that you can void your warranty if you modify the pistol in any way. Third, if we keep repairing the guns on our own the manufacture, absent our feed back, will never correct the problems on their own. It's your gun and you can do with it as you like. Far be it from me to tell you what to do.
Your humble servant,
Muggsy

Wow you were criticized for saying send it back to Kahr? That seems completely logical and apropriate. Perhaps it was they way you said it that you were criticized for? Tact is not one of your strong suits. Trust me I know this first hand. Further example of this possibility is in your original post: "It's not that I really give a damn what any of you think...." how nice of you to add that.

[deadeye]

I know down deep inside you really care what I think. No, really! I think. Problem is - I totally agree with you. I've always tried to avoid buying other peoples problems, especially with something I am going to bet my life on. New guns have a warranty and companies state very plainly if you modify it in anyway it's your baby. I spent my whole life designing and maintaining machinery including gunsmithing, so will tackle about anything, but have no intention of voiding my warranty. Luckily there has been not a single problem with my CM9. But if there had been I wouldn't hesitate sending it in. Your advice is more than welcome to me and I'm sure, many others. Advice is good. 70 years young and still learning new things every day. Thank you.

[jeepster09]

So sweet...

[Bawanna]

I take 3 of those a day jeepster. Kind of knock the edge off but certainly not a cure.

[berettabone]

That, and a little noassatall can go a long way

[marshal kane]

I have received some criticism lately for suggesting that people who are having problems with the functioning of their Kahr pistols send them back to the manufacturer for repair under warranty. It's not that I really give a damn what any of you think, but I felt that I owed it to you to explain my position. First, not everyone is a gunsmith or even mechanically inclined. Second, the owners manual expressly states that you can void your warranty if you modify the pistol in any way. Third, if we keep repairing the guns on our own the manufacture, absent our feed back, will never correct the problems on their own. It's your gun and you can do with it as you like. Far be it from me to tell you what to do.
Your humble servant,
Muggsy

My sentiments exactly. If your Kahr is under warranty, let Kahr fix it, don't void your warranty by home gunsmithing the gun as you may have to pay for all the damages that you did to it later. For those of you whose guns are no longer under warranty, yes you can homegunsmith your gun knowing full well that you alone bear the responsibility and costs of your work. Some, but not all of us, have the background to do repairs and be successful at it but I would never criticize anyone for recommending that a gun be sent back to the manufacturer for repair work as some repairs take special tooling and the gunsmiths there certainly have the expertise to fix the problem. That's my take on this, YMMV

[muggsy]

Wow you were criticized for saying send it back to Kahr? That seems completely logical and apropriate. Perhaps it was they way you said it that you were criticized for? Tact is not one of your strong suits. Trust me I know this first hand. Further example of this possibility is in your original post: "It's not that I really give a damn what any of you think...." how nice of you to add that.

You did notice the big smiley face after that quote, didn't you. That was to signify that I was kidding. I care deeply what you guys think about me.

[muggsy]

I believe that the Navy vaccinated me with Fukitol in boot camp.

[b4uqzme]

I'm on a mission to wear that sarcasm emoticon out. Just sayin'.

[Ikeo74]

There are exceptions to send the gun back.......There seems to be a lot of problems with the gun caused by the gun's owner. Incorrect grip that causes loading issues and the slide to not lock back on the last round. Weak ammo, incorrect magazine loading, (not pushed back in the mag far enough), not enough lube to get good cycling, and many more problems that don't need to be sent back to the manufacture. These problems need to be resolved by the pearson shooting the gun. If everyone returned their guns for trivial malfunctions we would soon see an increase in retail prices to cover the cost of shipping and examinations by their locksmiths. Everyone should try to resolve their own problem before they "send it back". IMO We all have some minor issues with our new gun until we get to know how it works best. That is why we give opinions of this forum, to help other owners through the orientation period with your new purchase. You can bet that Kahr Arms is getting a lot of information here about what the problems are and using the information to make changes in manufacture, when necessary.

[Alfonse]

Muggsy, I don't care what you tell people to do.

[MTCSS]

Back in '73 when I was in bootcamp, a Corpsman gave me a double dose of Fukitol. I later found out he doubled it because he was out of Givechit pills.

[knkali]

Back in '73 when I was in bootcamp, a Corpsman gave me a double dose of Fukitol. I later found out he doubled it because he was out of Givechit pills.

good one