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    Just got this month's Guns & Ammo mag in the mail today. They had a really interesting article where they were matching the top 10 most popular 9mm compacts and tested them against each other. They fired 650 shots through each one. For those who criticize Kahr's reliability and cry rivers about it, this is for you!

    1. Beretta Nano - 9 malfunctions.

    2. Glock 43 - 0 malfunctions.

    3. Kahr CM 9 - ZERO MALFUNCTIONS.

    4. Kel-Tec PF 9 - 10 malfunctions.

    5. Ruger LC 9 - 1 malfunction.

    6. Sig Sauer P290RS - 3 malfunctions.

    7. Smith & Wesson M&P Shield - 1 malfunction.

    8. Springfield XDs - 2 malfunctions.

    9. Taurus 709 SLIM - 0 malfunctions.

    10. Walther PPS - 0 malfunctions.
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    That looks about right for the ones on the list I have shot.
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    • #3
      ... and for those who criticize Taurus reliability ...

      muggsy: Let's face it, being shot by a .380 will ruin anyone's day.

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      • #4
        there will always be brand loyal fans no matter what anybody says, i will try any brand & not worry about my hand falling off if i do hold it.
        this being said if something was sooo bad the company would'nt be in business, there are many factors on how a malfunction can happen.
        BOB

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DavidR View Post
          ... and for those who criticize Taurus reliability ...
          Funny you mention that, they said the Taurus was one of the favorite pistols and they had quite a few people involved in this test. Just goes to show you.
          "Well, Mr. Carpetbagger. We got somethin' in this territory called a Missouri boat ride."

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HAP1978 View Post
            Just got this month's Guns & Ammo mag in the mail today. They had a really interesting article where they were matching the top 10 most popular 9mm compacts and tested them against each other. They fired 650 shots through each one. For those who criticize Kahr's reliability and cry rivers about it, this is for you!

            1. Beretta Nano - 9 malfunctions.

            2. Glock 43 - 0 malfunctions.

            3. Kahr CM 9 - ZERO MALFUNCTIONS.

            4. Kel-Tec PF 9 - 10 malfunctions.

            5. Ruger LC 9 - 1 malfunction.

            6. Sig Sauer P290RS - 3 malfunctions.

            7. Smith & Wesson M&P Shield - 1 malfunction.

            8. Springfield XDs - 2 malfunctions.

            9. Taurus 709 SLIM - 0 malfunctions.

            10. Walther PPS - 0 malfunctions.
            I am not really surprised that the Kahr, Glock, and Walther had 0 malfunctions. I am also not surprised that the Kal-Tec had 10. As to the rest, especially the Sig, it would be interesting to know the round count for the malfunctions in order to understand if it fell within normal break in. In addition, some pistols just do not run well if they are very dirty. In the old days (30-35 years ago), I would do a quick cleaning at the range after 100 rounds or so on my Series 70 Colt 1911, C-Series BHP, and my revolvers to eliminate that variable that might undermine my confidence in the the handgun.

            IMO, from what I have observed, new shooters these days seem to have lost the knowledge that new guns need to be broken in and kept clean, as well as the knowledge that some malfunctions are due to the ammo not the gun. In the old days, if we got a malfunction in the first 200 - 300 rounds, we did not consider the handgun unreliable. We understood it was being broken in. When I broke in my old Series 70 Colt 1911, I had two FTE's and one failure to chamber in the first 100 - 200 rounds, but it ran flawlessly after that. It was just picky regarding accuracy between ammo brands. I eventually sold it and bought a C Series BHP. The BPH had no failures during break in and it was not so picky about ammo brands. I ran GECO 124 g FMJ for range ammo, and I carried it with Federal 9BP JHP which could blow out X rings. I eventually gravitated to revolvers. I consider the Kahr K9 a replacement for both the BPH and small revolvers and a perfect marriage between the two. It has the grip profile of the BPH and a better trigger than any small revolver I have owned. The K9 and two spare mags are easily concealed. I always found that Safariland speedloaders would print under my shirt but K9 spare mags do not.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DavidR View Post
              ... and for those who criticize Taurus reliability ...
              we will continue to question.................................

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              • #8
                No failures in my 9mm Taurus G2 Millenium PT111 2nd generation *using 115 gr ammo*.

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                • #9
                  Taurus is the only hand gun that I have had the safety snap off while using. I have shot a lot of guns and it remains the only one that failed catastrophically and could not be fixed at the range. I am sure all brands have lemons but this was before round 100..... Taurus 1911 in 45.


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                  • #10
                    I saw a copy of the comic book in question at the gun store, SCCY had the back cover ad, that's usually enough for a mention, if not a win. go get a copy of MotorTrend and buy the car of the year. for gun reviews check gunblast, that guy loves them all.

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                    • #11
                      The Sig 290, would hardly would classify as "Most Popular" This was and remains a dog! The 938 should have been in it's place.
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                      • #12
                        I would like to know what ammo was used........................................

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Streetkahr View Post
                          I am not really surprised that the Kahr, Glock, and Walther had 0 malfunctions. I am also not surprised that the Kal-Tec had 10. As to the rest, especially the Sig, it would be interesting to know the round count for the malfunctions in order to understand if it fell within normal break in. In addition, some pistols just do not run well if they are very dirty. In the old days (30-35 years ago), I would do a quick cleaning at the range after 100 rounds or so on my Series 70 Colt 1911, C-Series BHP, and my revolvers to eliminate that variable that might undermine my confidence in the the handgun.

                          IMO, from what I have observed, new shooters these days seem to have lost the knowledge that new guns need to be broken in and kept clean, as well as the knowledge that some malfunctions are due to the ammo not the gun. In the old days, if we got a malfunction in the first 200 - 300 rounds, we did not consider the handgun unreliable. We understood it was being broken in. When I broke in my old Series 70 Colt 1911, I had two FTE's and one failure to chamber in the first 100 - 200 rounds, but it ran flawlessly after that. It was just picky regarding accuracy between ammo brands. I eventually sold it and bought a C Series BHP. The BPH had no failures during break in and it was not so picky about ammo brands. I ran GECO 124 g FMJ for range ammo, and I carried it with Federal 9BP JHP which could blow out X rings. I eventually gravitated to revolvers. I consider the Kahr K9 a replacement for both the BPH and small revolvers and a perfect marriage between the two. It has the grip profile of the BPH and a better trigger than any small revolver I have owned. The K9 and two spare mags are easily concealed. I always found that Safariland speedloaders would print under my shirt but K9 spare mags do not.
                          This post has earned the Muggsy seal of approval. Well done, Streetkahr.
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                          • #14
                            Nice

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                            • #15
                              Same results that I have gotten. Walther PPS and Kahr CM9 are my light carry guns.
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