Carry your gun. EVERY. DAY.

[jocko]

Alot of Macho talk here, my point is until it happens we never know how we will react. In todays mentalaity, if its white on white, ur OK, if its white on Black you might just hesistate a split second because of all the bull sh!t these past couple years. Just sayin. and then ur dead. B e prepared but please dont be stupid.All lives should matter, but at this time, that slogan is seldom heard to,, compared to Black lives matter..

[berettabone]

and what if you DON'T do anything and get dead.

I have been trained, I know the law, and I have the Armed Citizen's Legal Defense Network to back my decision to fight to stay alive.

You won't get any argument from me, but we would be talking about a whole different scenario if you would have opened up instead of your supervisor. Everybody just wants to start shooting right away without thinking about the scenario. It's what happened to your boss, not you. If it had been you, it most likely would have turned out differently. No knock on the head..........held at gunpoint until............

[Bawanna]

Or it could have gone exactly the same. Maybe the supervisor didn't see them and got whacked on the head.

Then it would have been TD2K whacked on the head gun in holster hopefully completely unnoticed by the perps. This would have offended me deeply and there would not be a place anywhere for them to hide that I wouldn't find them and deal them appropriate justice.

[berettabone]

Oh, I agree with ya'll 100 percent... Just trying to throw in a curve ball to see how everyone was going to react...

You'll find that a lot of "gun people", and "second amenders" are on your side until you question their priorities or responsibilities, then they tell you that maybe you shouldn't carry a firearm because you DO think about the consequences. These same people wonder why the anti gunners are always a thorn in their side.....usually it's because they give them ammunition

[Bawanna]

I think your way over reacting beretta, I really do.

Some of the post here could probably be written better but the implied scenario is the supervisor got hit in the head, so a weapon is there. TD2K mentions her training which to the average person would imply that she would consider the shoot or dont shoot option.

Not shooting and holding for police especially multiple bad guys is a risky situation but one has to do it once the threat is not longer active.

I don't see where anyone jumped on Bobshouse either. If he feels that way I'd like to apologize for the whole gang, again I don't think it was meant that way.

[b4uqzme]

I'm really glad that everyone here just wants to start shooting. I GUARANTEE, that if you shoot an unarmed person, you will go to prison, be bankrupted or both.............I don't care who your lawyer is...

I politely ask that you back that statement up with some proof. I repeat: serious subject matter that requires serious consideration. I don't want it on my head that I instilled the thread of doubt into someone's head that got them killed. Nor do I want to offer unqualified legal advice.

I retract the comment about not qualified to carry. We all must make our own decisions. The post I responded to described a mindset no worse than not carrying at all...so my comment wasn't necessary.

[Bobshouse]

^^^ there's a statement from someone who shouldn't carry. And that's OK. It's not for everybody. Curveball and all.

Well, now that I've dried my eyes and blown my nose in an attempt to compose myself...

Yes, b4uqzme, I carry, nationwide.

[Bobshouse]

I think your way over reacting beretta, I really do.

Some of the post here could probably be written better but the implied scenario is the supervisor got hit in the head, so a weapon is there. TD2K mentions her training which to the average person would imply that she would consider the shoot or dont shoot option.

Not shooting and holding for police especially multiple bad guys is a risky situation but one has to do it once the threat is not longer active.

I don't see where anyone jumped on Bobshouse either. If he feels that way I'd like to apologize for the whole gang, again I don't think it was meant that way.

Seriously, there is nothing or nobody here that can say or do anything that will ruffle my feathers. 27 years of being around convicts does that to a person. Strange thing is during those 27 years, I've still to meet a person who was guilty of the crime committed, as found by the courts.

[Bawanna]

Amen brother. The name Pitocco mean anything to you. He was or may even still be around.

[TD2K]

Meanwhile, this happened later the same day, just up the street from our plant.

http://www.news9.com/story/29888857/okc-pastor-shoots-at-burglary-suspect-attempts-to-hold-him-at-gunpoint

and someone needs to tell the pastor he can't "shoot at" a fleeing suspect. *sigh*

OKLAHOMA CITY - A church pastor shot at an attempted robbery suspect, then attempted to hold him at gunpoint until police arrived at his church on Northeast 50th and M.L.K.
But, that suspect took off on foot when police showed up. And an unsuspecting homeowner found the man in his backyard.
News 9 talked to pastor Kenneth Morgan at his church. He said he was in his office getting ready for mid-week service when he heard something in the church's dining area.

He was armed and ready when he went to go check it out. The pastor's presence scared the suspect and he took off outside.
“The pastor held the burglar at gunpoint. He laid down in the grass, at some point then decided to run off as we were arriving,” said Lt. Michelle Holland, OCPD.
That's when police say one shot was fired by Pastor Morgan at the suspect.
Then, the search was on for a man who somehow how made his way inside The Church of the Living God. Air One was in the air and dozens of officers were on the ground.
“When I came home it was helicopters everywhere,” said nearby homeowner Clarence Thomas.
Clarence Thomas, at home with his wife didn't know what was going on. They saw a breaking news scroll across their TV screen.
The suspect was on the run in his neighborhood.
“I said, well, I better go look in my backyard just to be sure,” said Thomas.
And Clarence was not prepared for what he was about to see.
“And I looked and I started to go back in the house, and I walked right here and I saw him laying right there beside that brick wall,” said Thomas.
He eased back inside his home and called 911.
“Within two minutes, it was 20 police cars here, and they took care of him,” said Thomas.
Pastor Morgan says in his 10 years as a licensed gun carrier, this was the first time he's had to use it at his church.
Pastor Morgan says the suspect, who has not been identified, told him he was looking for food and something to drink.
As far as police know, the man didn't actually take anything out of the church.

[muggsy]

I don't like weak sisters. The left doesn't need ammunition from the right to go after our guns. We have the 2nd amendment to counter any argument that they can proffer. Gun ownership and self-defense are a God given constitutional rights.

[TD2K]

Or it could have gone exactly the same. Maybe the supervisor didn't see them and got whacked on the head.

Then it would have been TD2K whacked on the head gun in holster hopefully completely unnoticed by the perps. This would have offended me deeply and there would not be a place anywhere for them to hide that I wouldn't find them and deal them appropriate justice.

The supervisor (M) saw him. M was in the locker room starting to change, d00d came in and had him cornered. Only one way out. M tried to get him to go outside and leave, kept saying the other guys would be here any minute, they were outside parking, then d00d hit him over the head and literally ripped the back half of his pants off in order to take his wallet. When we got here, it looked like M had on chaps. No back left on his pants. Poor guy.

I'm certainly not advocating to shoot first, ask questions later. As I teach in my classes, knive, gun, tire iron, pipe, etc are weapons, and hands can also be a weapon. As someone else mentioned, disparity of force also plays a part, especially when it's black guy vs. white girl as it would have been in my case had I opened Wednesday.

[berettabone]

I politely ask that you back that statement up with some proof. I repeat: serious subject matter that requires serious consideration. I don't want it on my head that I instilled the thread of doubt into someone's head that got them killed. Nor do I want to offer unqualified legal advice.

I retract the comment about not qualified to carry. We all must make our own decisions. The post I responded to described a mindset no worse than not carrying at all...so my comment wasn't necessary.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bre...l-unarmed-man/ Would you like more????????????? I can find hundreds...........figured I'd start in your state.

[EvanLee]

This is the video I always show to people who don't think they need a gun to protect themselves.

Not safe for work and some audiences - language and violence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyN3IKLGkR8


And then, I show 'em this one. Kinda cute and funny, but tells the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCBNOFmr4nw

[jpshaw]

I carry "A" gun every day but sometimes, depending on dress, it's just my little Keltec .380 in the pocket.