"Kahrs can't take the strain" of intense shooting classes

[Handy]

I could see firing 50 rounds for an HK or full size Beretta. Not much else. Kahr says 200, and that would probably do me fine for a K9.

[Barth]

Newbies can't take the strain. Kahrs are fine.

I generally require 500 trouble free rounds before I carry any gun. Use to be 1000 but I've lowered my standards due to the ammo cost and seemingly limited time.

I do know a bunch, officers included who shoot a couple mags, do a minimal qual and even with minor issues they carry the thing. Usually a back up, sometimes an off duty gun. Guess if it works for them ok. Not for me.

+1
I like 1000 to 1500 rounds with zero issues.
200 of any carry JHP (and I generally like to have three different JHP options).
I've spent many times the price of my guns on ammo...

My MK40 took a few rounds to get reliable.
But after that?
Easily 2000 with no issues.
And that includes JHPs in 135, 155, 165 & 180 grain bullets.
Speer GDHP SB, Federal HST, Winchester Ranger T-Series, Cor-Bon...

[CJB]

All I know is.... every few months, I take my daily carry PM45 out of my pocket after work, and unload six shots into the backyard.

All the grime, lint, grit, mung, mud/blood/beer, smeg, kweeb be damned, because it has NEVER failed me and is nice and loosey goosey to rack too.

[Dbholfo]

I try to shoot monthly outdoors but weather sometimes won't allow me to. My PM45 shoots flawlessly after initial FTFeed and ramp polishing. Like I've said before it shoots more accurately for me than my Ruger P345 I've had for 6 years. That's not to say the Ruger isn't a good shooter. There's no question in my mind that the Kahr is the right CC gun. I practice moving and shooting from cover with both guns alternately and combine that sometimes with my 870. My friend keeps me challenged and thinking about what I'm doing in various scenarios when we shoot and I've learned a bunch since I started seriously shooting in 2009. I was 62 then and my body is slower but in better shape now.

[muggsy]

There are certainly enough known issues with certain Kahr models for a trainer to make some general comments about the brand. Anyone who would be so bothered about those kind of comments that they couldn't stay in the class to learn probably wasn't ready to learn anything in the first place.

I think the K9 was a pretty neato design. I'd probably have to put at least 500 trouble free rounds downrange on something like a PM40 before I'd carry it, and I wouldn't tolerate any peening or distortion.

There are known issues with virtually every brand of gun. There are known issues with some instructors, too. The comment that Kahrs "can't handle the strain" was made by an instructor with known issues.

[TheTman]

For now Kahrs are serving me well, but if things deteriorate, I'm not sure a single stack is going to cut it, save a 1911 with 4 extra 8 round mags. I may want to move up to something with a 15 round mag, at least in 9mm. Walther has a low priced 9mm PPX that stays right around the $300 mark, with a 16 round mag that I'd like to check out. Reviewers seem to like it well enough. Buds has some decent prices on some .40 cal police trade in, mostly M&P's and a couple Glocks. The M&P's hold 15 .40's in the mag.
I'd better quit looking at guns, and stock up on ammo for what I have.

[jocko]

For now Kahrs are serving me well, but if things deteriorate, I'm not sure a single stack is going to cut it, save a 1911 with 4 extra 8 round mags. I may want to move up to something with a 15 round mag, at least in 9mm. Walther has a low priced 9mm PPX that stays right around the $300 mark, with a 16 round mag that I'd like to check out. Reviewers seem to like it well enough. Buds has some decent prices on some .40 cal police trade in, mostly M&P's and a couple Glocks. The M&P's hold 15 .40's in the mag.
I'd better quit looking at guns, and stock up on ammo for what I have.

I'm stgill betting we will see a double stack kahr in 9nn and sooner than u think. Only makes good sense, they have done about all they can to the sub kahrs they make now, so why not offer a gun that gives us a choice instead of going out and buying a glock. That Gen 2 K9 is never gonna be a seller IMO but it is a nice addition to kahrs line of quality guns and with that model they have showed they can amke a very super accurate handgun. Why a double stack 9 first, well it makes sense to me.

[Alfonse]

I'm stgill betting we will see a double stack kahr in 9nn and sooner than u think. Only makes good sense, they have done about all they can to the sub kahrs they make now, so why not offer a gun that gives us a choice instead of going out and buying a glock. That Gen 2 K9 is never gonna be a seller IMO but it is a nice addition to kahrs line of quality guns and with that model they have showed they can amke a very super accurate handgun. Why a double stack 9 first, well it makes sense to me.

I picked up a Taurus PT 111 G2 to make some aftermarket parts for it. The thing holds 12+1 and only cost $200 out the door if you count the $50 mail in rebate. The thing doesn't cost much, but surprisingly isn't chintzy. It is just a bit bigger, than a CW9 and is about 1.1" thick. I have about 400 rounds through it now and it works pretty well. The trigger is "different" but I got used to it pretty quickly and can hit what the gun is pointing towards. It actually got me thinking about how I might carry it, since it won't go in my pocket. Everything else seems pretty uncomfortable to me (I know, comforting, etc.). I get if things deteriorate, sudden'y a single stack might not seem like enough. Or, I could just throw the CW380 in another pocket in addition.

[b4uqzme]

If things get sketchy enough, the CZ P07 will leave the bedside and take its place on my hip. And the Kahrs will become backups. No stretch IMHO.

[muggsy]

I'd like to see Kahr make a hi cap double stack nine. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

[jocko]

I'd like to see Kahr make a hi cap double stack nine. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.

pATIENCE, sh!thead

[knkali]

To the OP. That statement is NOT TRUE. I routinely took my Kahr P40 to combat class. After all, I train with what I carry most. Yeah it looked ridiculous but the gun did well. It was hard on the shooter b/c the round count was high for a compact gun but the gun goes bang and it is a great way to get to know your weapon well. I did have to do a quick clean every 300 rounds or she acts up but the gun held together well. I did have probs with mag drops. Yep do a lot of them do to the capacity of the gun ( most guys in the class were LEO or armed forces and had high cap mags) The probs with mags drops is when the mag hits the deck, the base plate would sometimes come loose and the spring shot out to who knows where. I had to rig the base plate so that would not happen( I have a thread on that) but the gun did well. OH my FO sights did fall apart but that is sort of expected with FO sights and running as gun hard and often.

[Alfonse]

My daughter and I took two PM9s to a combat class in August. She eventually did have trouble with limp wristing when she got tired (she's only 15) that caused a few feeding failures, but the guns performed flawlessly. We shot close to 400 rounds through each.

[CPTKILLER]

My MK9 is fine. I carry it and completely trust it!

[OldLincoln]

Let's see, the last time I got in a 200rd shootout was back in.... long time ago, can't recollect just yet.... Oh yeah, never. Been a poorly couple years and haven't even carried or shot. My carry card has expired but still in the margin for renewal so I'll get it just because I'm concerned that those nutjobs in Sacramento will pass some stupid laws 1/1/16 tightening up requirements. If I could get my hips replaced I'd be back to full time carry. Might have to get a true very lightweight pocket carry till then with things so screwed up.