Whatever...........soap opera?

[berettabone]

I think what he probably meant was that they ran it for a few hrs. and cut some grass with it. My guess is what Bawanna mentioned. I think it got over heated a bit from the tall grass. I didn't have to pay anything, so I don't think they're trying to pull my grundle. We'll see, it's all I can do. I'm just getting too old to be raising my blood pressure. They do have to come with a trailer and it's 20 miles each way, so in that respect, how can I complain really. Just hoping that this is the last issue with crossed fingers.

[berettabone]

I now drive an all wheel vehicle. They are wonderful in the snow. Should have done it ages ago............................................... .......................

[ltxi]

Got my first 4x4 in 1975. Haven't been without since. Since 1999 wife and I have each had our own personal cars for daily use and the trucks have been joint bad weather, whenever, back-up, recreational, and sometime vacation vehicles. Current is an '08 Avalanche with 51K miles on it since we bought it new in Nov 2007.

[Bawanna]

In my youth I once had 4 4x4 rigs in the driveway. All ran, all ready to go. I went from a 4x4 Chevy S10 to a Chevy van for construction and haven't had one since. If I get a 2014 or so AWD or any 4x4 van it will be for keeps.

[berettabone]

Got back from up nort today....................right before the nasty storms started rolling through. Four days of heat indicies of over 100. Kept me from mowing the lawn, or doing much of anything for that matter. 60 mph winds up nort, 60 mph. winds back home. Heading back up for the holiday. I guess it's supposed to be hot again. I was was hoping for a repreive.......................................... .................................................W ell, I knew it would happen eventually, and it did. The wifey took the dog for a walk down the road. In the distance, she saw the 2 pitt bulls coming out on to the road from their property. She turned around and was hoping that they didn't see her, but they did. This is the distance of approx. 100 yds. She turned around and started heading back home, walking fast, she didn't want to run. Our dog was starting to get agitated because she was sensing what was happening. The pit bulls were running towards her and they pretty much caught up to her before she could get on to our property. Luckily, my neighbor was relaxing on his porch and heard my wife yelling, and he flew down there with his walking stick that he uses for balance issues. Unfortunately, he didn't have the 44 mag. He got them to stop long enough, so wifey could get on to our property, and get her and the dog in the house. Apparently, while my wifey was briefing me, the neighbor went down to the dog owners property. I don't know what was said. Next thing I know, is I have some suv flying up my drive. This short little women gets out, aggressively, and starts walking towards me on the deck. You know how they say that dog owners look like their pets? Look and act. Enough said. I asked what I could do for her. She said she wanted to talk to the wife. My wife would have talked to her, but I didn't think it was a good time. I told her that my wife was upset right now, after being chased up the road by a couple of pit bulls. That's where my bad word generator kicked in. She asked me to stop swearing and I told her to go F herself with a broom handle, and that she wasn't invited there, and if she didn't like it, she could take a long walk off the short pier in to the FU river. Then I said that I see they sent the man in the family to take care of business...…………………….In short, I told her that my wifey was grabbing for the revolver, and her dog's just came within a blink of dying. She became defensive, even though I never heard a defense. She just wanted me to stop swearing, and I explained that we are past that. I told her again that her dog's were going to die. I told her that once her dog's leave the property, they are out of her control. If I don't kill them, the neighbor will. He has young children that don't know any better coming next month. I told her that the neighbors are all done with this. If your dog's die, it's your fault. Keep them on your property, I AM warning you. She said what lousy neighbors and I should call the sheriff. She said she was going to call because the neighbor was swinging a stick at them. I said that I WAS going to call them and we did. To make the story shorter, we filled out reports, and she also got one from the neighbor. The deputy said that she talked to the dog owner and she was defensive, bordering on hostile. She said that she was going to issue them a dog at large citation. This starts the process. After that, they keep going up in jing until eventually after so many, the county steps in and gives you the choice of putting up a fence, or getting rid of the dogs. She also mentioned that she has a friend on the force that has dealt with them. I found out that her friend is also a deputy, and related by family to the new neighbors across the road from the pit bull owners. They have already had dealings with these people. I told the wife that you can tell that the owner still doesn't get it, and to be prepared to do what's needed in the future. I think she may need a few more citations before it sinks in...…………………………..if the dog's are still alive...........................until next time.

[ltxi]

Do a with witnesses about "set up", and shoot 'em in the face....dogs and/or owner, as appropriate.

[dustnchips]

Sounds like you need a "Judge" loaded with buck shot.

[berettabone]

They would have gotten .357 from the wife. I really don't want to fire a firearm close to my dog's ears unless I have to. We have to find a good spray to use that doesn't break the bank. If I had endless income, I would just get a canister of bear spray and give them the full dose, but at $50 a pop, why should I have to? Last time I checked, the wife's .357's are .80 cents a piece.

[Bawanna]

Maybe 357's and ear muffs for your dog.

Had a high school friend with the coolest german shepard ever. Goofy dog preferred to chase rocks rather than sticks?

His little brother a worthless doper human, threw a firecracker and said ROCK!. Dog of course went and picked it up and blew in her mouth.

Little brother got a pretty good beat down for that one. I don't think he or the dog were ever quite the same after that.

[Ed M]

This stuff is nasty. Gotta hit 'em in the face though. My guess is one "treatment" and they'll run away next time they see you (or your wife). Price is right...

https://www.amazon.com/Sabre-3-Peppe...rds=bear+spray

[ltxi]

Yeah, but then they maybe not and still be around. My vote would be for a handheld .410 solution, such as the Judge, as easiest permanent to apply.

[berettabone]

This stuff is nasty. Gotta hit 'em in the face though. My guess is one "treatment" and they'll run away next time they see you (or your wife). Price is right...

https://www.amazon.com/Sabre-3-Peppe...rds=bear+spray

I saw the discussion about the Sabre. That is a problem, hitting them directly in the face. That means letting them in to your " inner circle ". Even with the bear spray, you don't get too many shots. I've been discussing it with wifey. All we can do is hope that we don't have to go down that path. Personally, I'd feel worse shooting a dog much more than a human being. They can't help getting a fool for an owner. Just me...………………………...I've tried to find out how much the issued citation was, we forgot to ask, but the closest info that I can find is $263.50. The wife did some checking and said she found someone up nort dere who's 4th ticket for dogs at large was $2100 for each dog that they had.

[berettabone]

Maybe 357's and ear muffs for your dog.

Had a high school friend with the coolest german shepard ever. Goofy dog preferred to chase rocks rather than sticks?

His little brother a worthless doper human, threw a firecracker and said ROCK!. Dog of course went and picked it up and blew in her mouth.

Little brother got a pretty good beat down for that one. I don't think he or the dog were ever quite the same after that.

We had to train Maggie to not pick up rocks. It wasn't easy. Had to watch her like a hawk for a few weeks, until she figured out that maybe it was a bad thing. I don't think that she would have swallowed any, but like you said, goofy. You never know. Every once in a while, she'll go grab a rock, like she's just telling, she knows it's bad, but I'll just keep you on your toes. Damn animals are usually smarter than an 8th grader.

[dustnchips]

If you don't believe dogs trane us you are naοve.

[Ken L]

Instead of bear spray pick up some wasp and hornet spray. Has about a 20 foot range and a nice concentrated spray pattern. I really doubt the dogs will advance any after getting a face full of it.