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  • #31
    So I'm a little chastened. I field stripped my P380 and my CM9. Both were clean and showed no build up or caking of the FrogLube. The exterior of both barrels were a little "draggy" to the touch. I ran to the range and put a couple of mags through both and had no problem. Brought them home and detail stripped them. The "draginess" was gone, likely due to the heat of firing. The striker channel in the 380 was pretty clean but had some lube residue. Strange because I never lube it and I had changed the striker a couple of hundred rounds ago and cleaned it out well when I did. The CM9 was a different story. I had never detail stripped it and the striker channel was full of gunk. I cleaned both guns well with brake clean and lightly lubed with Hoppe's. I'm OK with the FrogLube. It did everything as advertised. The only thing that made me switch was that slight "draginess" to the touch. It might have been that I used it too generously and didn't wipe off enough of the excess or that I don't shoot often enough, but to my mind that drag and gun slides don't belong together. IMHO use FrogLube if you like but use it very sparingly and shoot often. Final lube results...inconclusive. As to all the people who are decrying newfangled stuff...I like trying newfangled. Finally got rid of my buggy whips and wide white walls. Heck, I even have a smart phone and don't use pencils anymore. You can't have my '72 Mini though...That's old school I'm sticking with. Thanks for this thread. Thought provoking at the least.

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    • #32
      You got rid of your wide white walls! Blasphemy!!!!

      I'm not opposed to new fangled and I'm guilty at times of jumping on new unproven stuff especially guns. I've been very lucky for the most parts, really no pigs in the bunch.

      I to enjoy and most likely prefer old stuff, older the better, old ways, old tools, old guns, old wome, no not old women.

      I'm going to suggest to my sniper to experiment with smaller amounts but I doubt he'll ever unscrew the lid on a bottle of Frog Lube again.
      http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
      In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
      Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
      Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
      Cue sound of Head slap.

      RIP Muggsy & TMan

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      • #33
        No story about lubrication would be complete, without a flashback to my old school chum, a certain Mr. Dave S.

        Dave had the extreme hots for a certain gal, named Pam. Pam was attractive, blonde, rather leggy in a nice way, and had ample bosom and a nice tushie. IOW, drop dead gorgeous. The kind of gorgeous that made her lonely, since every guy thought she was obviously too good for the likes of himself.

        Well, cutting to the chase, somehow old Dave got to his ultimate destination with Pam in her bedroom. He reached over to the nightstand to grab her tube of KY, instead grabbing a tube of Head & Shoulders. The rest was school history, as apparently Head & Shoulders burns much more severely if you get it on your schnauzer than in your eyes.

        That was the end of the Dave and Pam story.

        And, does Head and Shoulders still come in a tube? And who keeps shampoo in their nightstand with KY? Just askin!

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        • #34
          It's not only about new fangled, it's about what works, and if you can purchase something that works for a lot less money. Why throw away excess money for something that doesn't work any better than anything else? There have been tests over and over again about firearm lubricants. They have Hillary as their spokesperson.......................want to keep spending extra money needlessly, go for it............I'll use it for ammo.

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          • #35
            Has anyone used "weapon shield? Another new product.

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            • #36
              I've used Barricade which used to be called something else, can't recall what, but pretty sure it's the same stuff.

              I think Weapon Shield and Barricade are intended more for long term storage.

              For that purpose Du Lite is my favorite but it's hard to find the stuff at least around here. If anybody stumbles on it in your neck of the woods let me know, I'm about out and could use a couple cans.
              http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
              In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
              Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
              Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
              Cue sound of Head slap.

              RIP Muggsy & TMan

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              • #37
                Best as I can tell, Barricade used to be called "Sheath". It's a Birchwood Casey product. I have an old can of it... Ballistol can be tough to find in these parts, which is how I wound up trying FrogLube. I put FrogLube on a very short leash, and if I see any signs of trouble, it's back to Ballistol for this boy. I finally found a local dealer that carries Ballistol, and stocked up. I KNOW it works, and it's terrific for black powder too.

                You can find that DuLite stuff here:

                http://www.dulite.com/dulite_oils_lubricants.html

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Ed M View Post
                  Best as I can tell, Barricade used to be called "Sheath". It's a Birchwood Casey product. I have an old can of it... Ballistol can be tough to find in these parts, which is how I wound up trying FrogLube. I put FrogLube on a very short leash, and if I see any signs of trouble, it's back to Ballistol for this boy. I finally found a local dealer that carries Ballistol, and stocked up. I KNOW it works, and it's terrific for black powder too.

                  You can find that DuLite stuff here:

                  http://www.dulite.com/dulite_oils_lubricants.html
                  Yeah, I've visited the website but I think you have to order a case of 12 cans. Far more than I need, I've tried to get a group together to divide it up some but haven't succeeded yet.

                  Ballistol is sold at Brownells or most any on line gun shop supplier. I can get that for you anytime you can't find it.

                  And your exactly right, it used to be called Sheath. I liked the smell, can't vouch for how good it works but it seemed to.
                  http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
                  In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
                  Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
                  Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
                  Cue sound of Head slap.

                  RIP Muggsy & TMan

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                  • #39
                    I have used Weapon Shield when they were giving a sample tube away a while back....Nothing special about it that I could see just a very light, thin oil.....I currently use Slip 2000 EWL and like it very well as it lubes nicely but then dries so you don't have an oily slippery gun....I think where people get into trouble is mixing different products that chemically don't like one another....I found out the hard way that Breakfree CLP and Remoil will turn into a gummy glue....I completely locked up a Smith 686 and liked to have never gotten that mess out of the lock works....Now as for smell I kinda like how Ballistol smells and like to wipe down the outside of my blued guns with it....I also like Hoppe's and love how Marvel Mystery Oil smells.....
                    " An armed society is a polite society".... Robert A. Heinlein

                    Born under a bad sign with a blue moon in your eyes.......

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                    • #40
                      Hoppes here. Come home, break the gun open, put the barrel in a jar of hoppes and let it soak till Im ready to run a snake through it. Only one problem, Im afraid to try that with my Kahr barrels, heard it eats the finish...

                      Then I lube everything with superlube, a synthetic grease.

                      Reassemble, done.
                      23 years in a Federal Penitentiary, 6x8 double bunked rooms with toilets
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Bobshouse View Post
                        Hoppes here. Come home, break the gun open, put the barrel in a jar of hoppes and let it soak till Im ready to run a snake through it.
                        First - Olive jars are dandy for that. Been there, done that. Second, Kahr barrels are nickel plated and as such, the plating is porous. There is a fine copper wash under the nickel. The pores in the nickel let the Hoppe's, through. Hoppe's contains ammonia. Ammonia will eat that copper pretty quick and the nickel will first discolor, then begin to flake. A non-ammonia solvent will do no harm, and you can use any of the non-ammonia ones to do the same task, even good old WD-40 with a little mineral spirits added will work. Ditto things like PB Blaster work good for that task as well, and neither will harm nickel finish.

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                        • #42
                          ^^^ yep. No more Hoppes since I bought a shotgun with a nickel plated receiver.
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                          • #43
                            Hey, thanks for all the weapons shield comments!
                            We keep our antennas out for possible new stuff……BUT it is still Hopps, rem oil and slip 2000. We have put many thousands of round through various guns and that formula has always worked!! If we try something else…….it won't be in a carry gun!

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                            • #44
                              This is where frog lube comes from.....a mixture of:
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                              I am addicted to brake fluid...don't worry I can STOP at anytime!

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                              • #45
                                I think most lubes are fine and work well for pistols. After all, we're not talking about a demanding environment in the scheme of things when lubing a slide rail. I made the decision to try Frog Lube. Yeah, it's overpriced coconut oil, but I apply it with my finger and don't worry about getting cancer from using it, and it doesn't stink up the house. I guess I've been using it now for about six months with zero issues. But, I do clean my pistols within hours every time they are shot. I shoot at least twice a month, most of the time I shoot weekly. So, nothing is staying on my pistols for long. I could probably use Crisco or Astroglide or even spit and get good results on my pistols. In my environment, I love Frog Lube. I do not heat anything. I just apply it with my finger and the heat of my finger melts the product, let it sit a minute, then wipe it off. It leaves the tiniest amount of residue, film, or whatever you want to call it. I am never leaving enough to see the color of the product. I think so many people apply it like grease and leave it that way. Maybe Frog Lube should tell people to apply it like wood stain. Wipe it on, wipe it off. If I lived up North, I might consider a different product.

                                Ballistol is fine, but I prefer the smell of mint over licorice/anise. Have any of you shot a rifle that gets really hot that has been treated with Ballistol? Wow! When Ballistol starts cooking, shoo-wee it stinks.

                                I also love non-chlorinated brake cleaner for a solvent. Frog Lube suggests stripping all petroleum based solvents before applying, and if you think your firearm is stripped, hose it down with non-chlorinated brake cleaner, and you'll see how much petroleum is still on your firearm. The metal will look almost unfinished with many firearms when properly stripped. Then, when you apply Frog Lube or any lube, you'll see that metal darken and even out as a film is left once again.

                                Well, we all know this subject goes nowhere, and people will keep using whatever they like. For $89 for a 2 oz bottle, you can buy Salty's Mare Grease. Naturally sourced from beating a dead horse to a greasy spot.

                                Salty

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