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  • My Negligent Discharge

    It finally happened. I'm 74, have been shooting since I joined the Marine Corps at 18, and just the other day I had my first and only negligent discharge.

    I own and regularly train with three different Kahrs: a PM9, an MK9 and a K9. They all have similar triggers, with a very smooth, long, revolver-like pull. Recently, I added a Sig P220 Equinox Carry to the mix. That pistol is hammer fired, DA/SA, meaning the first pull of the trigger is quite long and maybe 9 pounds, while subsequent pulls are extremely short and maybe 2.5 pounds. Light, in other words.

    The other day I went to the local indoor range and took along the K9 and the Sig. I fired about 100 rounds through the Kahr, then switched over to the Sig. I fired a round out of the Sig, then paused to look at something and let my gun hand fall to the table. Just as I began to raise the Sig to the firing position, it suddenly discharged. It was pointed approximately downrange and the bullet went into the floor. No damage or injuries, by the grace of God.

    What happened? After a great deal of thought, here is what I believe occurred. I had been used to the Kahr trigger, which has a long pull. I believe that I had gotten into the habit of beginning to stroke the Kahr trigger before the pistol was at eye level and the target was in the sights. As the pull was long, the action, though wrong, had no consequences. However, when I subconsciously did the same thing to the Sig trigger while it was in SA mode, it was enough to cause it to fire.

    Shocked and shamed at the same time, but some lessons re-learned:

    -- An ND can happen to anyone, no matter how experienced. Even me. Even you.
    -- Finger off the trigger until target is in the sights and ready to fire.
    -- Be VERY careful when operating two weapons with completely different manuals of arms.

  • #2
    ^^^ Amen. Glad you all are OK.
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    • #3
      Even Jeff Cooper had a negligent discharge. Hold your head up. Nobody hurt, nothing damaged.

      Call it a wake up call. Apparently that's why there's more than one safety rule. You had it not pointed at anything important so turned out ok.

      All common sense really so your ok.

      Carry on. Don't throw the Sig away, weren't it's fault.
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      • #4
        All that matters is you and everyone was unharmed. I have only had one instance of a negligent discharge. Bersa 380 I bought used..first time shooting, loaded raised and racked slide and not use to the trigger guard, finger slipped on the trigger and it had been modified to be a hair trigger. Fired two shots in a row in the air above the target. Lucky it was at my sons 6 acre property and not the range. Replaced about every part in the gun!!!

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        • #5
          Had one on a 1911 one time. It was pointed down range and I was somewhat aiming but the gun went off before I expected. Sounds kinda like your situation. After the next teardown I found the sear is worn pretty good which contributed to the lightness of the trigger. I need to replace it. Havent shot that gun since that I recall. Like you said, finger off the trigger.
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          • #6
            I'm glad that you didn't call it an accident.......................................... I own striker fired, and sa/da firearms with hammers. I shoot them all on a regular basis. I have never had a negligent discharge, and don't believe I ever will because I do shoot different style firearms, and am used to handling both. I guess the lesson still learned is keep the bugger picker off of the bullet flinger. Glad no one was injured. I hope that you didn't have to change your pants

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            • #7
              Is that the same as a premature discharge.....
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              • #8
                Originally posted by jeepster09 View Post
                Is that the same as a premature discharge.....
                Pretty much....and equally embarrassing 😱

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                • #9
                  Thanks for sharing, we all need to be reminded that it can happen anywhere, at any time, to anybody.

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                  • #10
                    Accidents Happen

                    - Finger off the trigger until the target is in your sights, identified and you are ready to fire.
                    - Always point the firearm in a safe direction.


                    Yes, anyone can have an accidental discharge.
                    As you have discovered, just a momentary lapse in concentration can end in disaster.
                    Glad no one was injured.

                    IMHO it's really important to never get too relaxed and easy when handling loaded guns.
                    Lesson Learned

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                    • #11
                      Which reinforced maybe the most important of the four rules. Never point the muzzle at anything you do not intend to destroy. I had one once where I actually forgot to remove the mag on a 1911. Racked the slide, dumped the chambered round, pointed the gun at a concrete wall in my basement, and pulled the trigger. The only thing I can recall is, that mag was the only mag I owned without an extended floorplate. Poor excuse but that's all I got. I thank Hickock45 for his videos where he always clears his gun by pointing it downrange and pulling the trigger before returning it to the table.
                      Sometimes accidents make us smarter.
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                      • #12
                        Thanks for posting and keeping us all from getting complacent. It can happen, it does happen.
                        Rest in peace Muggsy

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SlowBurn View Post
                          Thanks for posting and keeping us all from getting complacent. It can happen, it does happen.
                          What he said, and it can happen to any of us.

                          Oldboldpilot, thank you for the wakeup call.
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                          • #14
                            took a man with some balls to come on to the board and say what happened. Thank you for your candor. As Barth mentioned, in his post, we need to not get lazy with our trigger hygiene.

                            Thank you again. Glad everyone was safe.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Armybrat View Post
                              What he said, and it can happen to any of us.

                              Oldboldpilot, thank you for the wakeup call.
                              I absolutely agree!!!

                              When a person handles guns frequently it's easy to let your guard down…….

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