well well well another school mass shooting...

[berettabone]

Anyone who would get their picture taken with old horse face should be jailed at the least. As soon as you're seen with horse face, illegalities should pop to the surface of your brain. Connecting yourself with old horse face does nothing for your reputation, or anything else for that manor. Stupid, stupid sheriff. When will they learn. Hang with the snakes, and your head gets cut off.

[JohnR]

It’s like having your picture taken with Don Corleone.

[340pd]

Nobody here knows the exact timing of what went on at that school. Questions like, number of shooters, where they were located, etc had to go through that deputy's mind.

That said, and speaking as a 72 year old man who is trained and still a very good shot even on the move, and my given duty was to protect that school, I would have been in there the second I got to the sound of the shots. Period, end of story.

As I have told my loved ones, I could have no greater honor that to have been successful in saving the life of a child regardless of my outcome. Grandpa got shot saving someone else? How flippin cool is that?

It's nice being old. Don't f**k with me on an airplane or when I am with my family. I have nothing to lose.

My 2¢

[knkali]

Where's Ixti? we need his 2 cents on this possibility that Peterson was set up for a fall.

[knkali]

Well Ben Shapiro says something is up as has been mentioned earlier in this thread....he thinks the Sheriff has something to hide.
Give a listen....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4x8hCgRydcs

[Armybrat]

I weep for those survivors, for I have literally walked in their shoes - directly over and around the pools of blood from my slaughtered classmates (University of Texas - August 1st, 1966). It's unfortunate that most of them are being manipulated to focus on the wrong thing instead of the root causes.

The government "village" - the FBI, the sheriff's office, the police department, the school administration, and the mental health provider - is what failed those poor kids, and not just that one LEO.

Yet the media prefer to run with the EBR & the NRA.

This country is totally screwed.

[jeepster09]

So true Army...hopefully our country will get focus soon. We are on a down hill slide.

[yqtszhj]

It's nice being old. Don't f**k with me on an airplane or when I am with my family. I have nothing to lose.

I think I'm going to print the quote above, frame it, and hang it on my wall.

[ltxi]

Where's Ixti? we need his 2 cents on this possibility that Peterson was set up for a fall.

Would have thought my already done posteds, last #132, wouldn't need further endorsement. Didn't see any need to sprinkle more gasoline. But given you done asked......

Only thing that set Peterson up for a fall was his own choice to go dereliction of duty. Beyond no rebuttal from him, won't answer his phone, put in his retirement papers, whatever... in that situation, namely he was there to protect those kids, Officer on scene gets to make the call. Damn good chance he woulda been killed and I'm sure he knew and considered that as he chose cowardice.

Can't speak to the later deputies arriving on the scene 'cause not enough information on what they knew or had been told. But this Peterson guy is a no brainer at this point. No way t'were I in his position could anyone have kept me, certainly armed, from going into that school. Not a hypothetical supposition, neither....gots enough btdt to know my ownself.

Anything else?


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[knkali]

Would have thought my already done posteds, last #132, wouldn't need further endorsement. Didn't see any need to sprinkle more gasoline. But given you done asked......

Only thing that set Peterson up for a fall was his own choice to go dereliction of duty. Beyond no rebuttal from him, won't answer his phone, put in his retirement papers, whatever... in that situation, namely he was there to protect those kids, Officer on scene gets to make the call. Damn good chance he woulda been killed and I'm sure he knew and considered that as he chose cowardice.

Can't speak to the later deputies arriving on the scene 'cause not enough information on what they knew or had been told. But this Peterson guy is a no brainer at this point. No way t'were I in his position could anyone have kept me, certainly armed, from going into that school. Not a hypothetical supposition, neither....gots enough btdt to know my ownself.

Anything else?


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Yeah, why give the other two deputies pause but not Peterson. He could have been told to stand down or ??? Your thoughts?

[JohnR]

A little more on Sheriff Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=zTfX8vJLNjA

[johnh]

It is simple. Now we hear there were maybe four deputies on site and none went in. I was a reserve office in my youth, and I have had a lot of police friends. I could probably fill a room with 30 or so of them currently. Put all of them outside a school and start the shooting inside. In my circle I think all 30 would enter, but lets say we randomly pick 30 LEOs I don't know. I bet 25 enter. Lets say I am biased and in reality only half enter. So of the four in Florida, two should have. But they had 100% failure. I wonder what would make that happen?

I am a school administrator. We had a lock down a couple years back and thought there might actually be a shooter outside. I am unarmed at work. I locked my team in my office and went to stop the shooter. Not bragging, just how it has to be. Fortunately it was a false alarm. But I call cowardice where I see it--or cops ordered to stay put and wiling to follow those orders for whatever reason.

[knkali]

It is simple. Now we hear there were maybe four deputies on site and none went in. I was a reserve office in my youth, and I have had a lot of police friends. I could probably fill a room with 30 or so of them currently. Put all of them outside a school and start the shooting inside. In my circle I think all 30 would enter, but lets say we randomly pick 30 LEOs I don't know. I bet 25 enter. Lets say I am biased and in reality only half enter. So of the four in Florida, two should have. But they had 100% failure. I wonder what would make that happen?

I am a school administrator. We had a lock down a couple years back and thought there might actually be a shooter outside. I am unarmed at work. I locked my team in my office and went to stop the shooter. Not bragging, just how it has to be. Fortunately it was a false alarm. But I call cowardice where I see it--or cops ordered to stay put and wiling to follow those orders for whatever reason.

John's reasoning that the probability of more cops arriving and not entering leads one to believe that they were ordered to stay put makes sense. Peterson could be the fall guy for the Sheriff's dirty little secret............... why haven't we heard for the other LEO's that arrived at the scene but didn't enter?

[Bawanna]

Because the media is on their side.

[berettabone]

Maybe we also need to do more stringent back round checks and training of our sheriff's. When they are employed to protect life and limb, and they stand outside waiting for the Calvary to show up, what message does this send? Just had a situation in a county by me, where 2 sheriff's apprehended a clown for doing something illegal, and while they're out there jack jawing, he slips his cuffs and drives their SUV away. Ends up in a chase, with a smashed up squad and more wasted tax dollars. How does this happen with supposed trained professionals? Your average citizen seems to have more protective bravado than half the cops out there. I have much respect for law enforcement, but when situations arise like that in Florida, it makes you think.