Limp Wrist

[ltxi]

I need to ask a dumb question... What is a "stove pipe"? I've seen that term many times but not sure what it means. Thanks!

Spent brass doesn't fully/properly eject and gets caught mouth upward between the breech face and the barrel hood as the slide closes.

[Rob Longenecker]

Picture of a stove pipe.

I need to ask a dumb question... What is a "stove pipe"? I've seen that term many times but not sure what it means. Thanks!

Here you go:

[ltxi]

I thought Glocks were immune to that problem....

[Rob Longenecker]

Staged Photo

I thought Glocks were immune to that problem....

Probably a staged photo.

[ltxi]

Probably a staged photo.

Great comeback....

[Bigcube]

Thank you! My Phoenix HP22 did that all the time with std velocity ammo. I didn't know they had a name for it

[ltxi]

Thank you! My Phoenix HP22 did that all the time with std velocity ammo. I didn't know they had a name for it

I had one of those. Great plinker. Worked well with Stingers. Really wish I hadn't sold it.

[Bigcube]

I had one of those. Great plinker. Worked well with Stingers. Really wish I hadn't sold it.

Same here, I traded it for a Walther P22 only to find out that needed good ammo too.

[WMD]

Limp wristing is an interesting topic. I am glad someone brought it up! I am 6'1" and weigh 250lbs. I keep myself in "somewhat" decent shape through various types of workouts. I have alos been shooting for decades!

I shot a Kahr PM40 a little while ago. Nice little gun..... when I figured out how to shoot it without limp wristing! I held it with a casual grip like I hold my 1911. WRONG! It jammed. Once I held in to the recoil, the problem cleared right up and it worked fine! If I owned the gun as a carry conceal, I would shoot it enough to develop the proper way to hold the gun when firing. I believe you should know your conceal carry weapon as well as your underwear! (assuming you wear any!) ;-)

I know my CC guns really well and shoot them often enough that a quick and "reasonably" (defined as center mass) well placed shot is second nature (just like putting on your underwear!). I think any small light weight high caliber gun probably fits in this category.

In essence....training is the answer. Education and practice is everything.

Just my 2 cents....

[WMD]

Limp wristing is an interesting topic. I am glad someone brought it up! I am 6'1" and weigh 250lbs. I keep myself in "somewhat" decent shape through various types of workouts. I have alos been shooting for decades!

I shot a Kahr PM40 a little while ago. Nice little gun..... when I figured out how to shoot it without limp wristing! I held it with a casual grip like I hold my 1911. WRONG! It jammed. Once I held in to the recoil, the problem cleared right up and it worked fine! If I owned the gun as a carry conceal, I would shoot it enough to develop the proper way to hold the gun when firing. I believe you should know your conceal carry weapon as well as your underwear! (assuming you wear any!) ;-)

I know my CC guns really well and shoot them often enough that a quick and "reasonably" (defined as center mass) well placed shot is second nature (just like putting on your underwear!). I think any small light weight high caliber gun probably fits in this category.

In essence....training is the answer. Education and practice is everything.

Just my 2 cents....

BTW, I just reread my post after posting to this forum. Apparently I cannot spell for *****!

Sorry about that. I guess I need to "practice" more.

[bayoutrigger]

It would be helpful if you describe what is meant by "Once I held in to the recoil..." and how this is done?

Thanks!

[Rob Longenecker]

Recoil

It would be helpful if you describe what is meant by "Once I held in to the recoil..." and how this is done?

Thanks!

If you resist the rearward recoil with a firm wrist, the slide can move backward and cycle fully against a relatively stable pistol frame. If you allow the frame to move backwards more than a little, the slide will short cycle and cause the malfunctions so often mentioned.

This does not mean to hold the gun so that it has no muzzle flip.

Here's an article on recoil you may enjoy. Tucker Gunleather Blog Blog Archive Let Recoil Happen

[WMD]

If you resist the rearward recoil with a firm wrist, the slide can move backward and cycle fully against a relatively stable pistol frame. If you allow the frame to move backwards more than a little, the slide will short cycle and cause the malfunctions so often mentioned.

This does not mean to hold the gun so that it has no muzzle flip.

Here's an article on recoil you may enjoy. Tucker Gunleather Blog Blog Archive Let Recoil Happen

That is exactly what I meant. Thanks Rob for the very clear explanation.

I think the Kahr PM series pistols in 40 and 45 cal may be more prone to the Limp Wrist condition then other guns. This is due to the large calibers being in a small lightweight package. I guess this may be a trade off when you want something "large" in a small light weight package. This is certainly something that can be overcome however (with a little practice). My guess is that in a high stress situation, limp wristing would not be a factor.