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  • #46
    IMHO, the trigger on the Buckmark is superior to the Ruger. Otherwise they are both good choices. I prefer the Buckmark grip, but that is an idividual, subjective choice.

    I measure all .22s by the legendary Woodsman, and the current Buckmark is the closest thing to the Colt that I've seen or shot.
    Judging by today's left wing, looks like Senator Joe McCarthy was right after all.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by PaiN View Post
      I can barely breathe ....
      Alright...I happen to have a brown paper bag next too me

      Buckeye can you give a comparison opinion between the Buckmark and Ruger 22/45RP? These happen to be the two choices it comes down too for me.
      tx
      I plan on doing that when I get home from work tonight.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by BuckeyeBlast View Post
        I plan on doing that when I get home from work tonight.
        tease
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        • #49
          Originally posted by PaiN View Post
          tease
          No man, nothing like that. 2 kids, work, school, and not enough sleep.

          Alright - I'll be brief. I WANT to like the Ruger better. I own 7 Rugers, and the only other brand I own more than one of is my 2 Kahrs. I'm a Ruger guy, but if I were to only buy one it would be the Buck Mark.

          1st impressions.
          The bluing on the BuckMark surpasses any Ruger I've owned. Beautiful blue job, I think I can see my reflection in it. Build quality is superb. Gun feels nice and tight.

          There's nothing wrong at all with the Rugers, but they feel more mass produced where the BuckMark feels custom. The Ruger is the Harley Davidson, but the BuckMark feels like a hand built motorcycle. Something's different, but it's hard to put your finger on. The Ruger's no frills, the Buckmark has little things like the extra contours in the back of the slide that give it the edge.

          Trigger has to go to the BuckMark, no doubt. The Rugers which I've shot for years tend to need to be let go of a little bit to allow the trigger to reset. The BuckMark made repetitive fire much nicer. Neither trigger is butter, but the slight advantage does go to the BuckMark.

          Accuracy is a dead tie. I shot mag after mag after mag. One time the BuckMark had better groups, the next time I shot the Ruger 22/45 better. Back and forth, back and forth. In a bullseye contest, it's a "shooter's race."

          Sights on both my BuckMark and 22/45 have been spot on from the factory. I've adjusted Ruger sights before, the BuckMark looks like it'd be a little more intuitive, but I didn't mess with them.

          Controls: Here again the BuckMark is the clear winner. Easier to operate, right where they belong. The levers have a better feel than the sliding buttons of the Ruger. The Ruger's controls seem to get hung up on all the California compliant crap, mag safety, LCI, etc. If you look in the one pic, you can even see the mag follower touching the slide release. With ammo in the mag it's not a problem because the follower is lower, but for inserting an empty mag you really have to drive it home w/ the palm of your hand to engage it. I find that crap annoying. Further...

          Mag Release: ...on my MkII's, mags would drop out no problem. On the Commie Compliant MkIII the mags pop out, but not with much authority. Again, I think they might be getting hung on on something based on what I've read. The BuckMark is push button and pick up you mag.

          I don't know enough about the BuckMark to know what it would entail to add an optic, but tried to take some pics. The Ruger is ready to go and comes with a set of rails should you decide to scope it. You can put a red dot on the Ruger w/out removing the iron sights, it looks like you'd need to remove the BuckMarks.

          Ruggedness, advantage Ruger, I think. It just feels strong and ready to take abuse, I don't know anyone who has ever had a Ruger Mark Series wear out. They're over engineered. That said, I don't know anyone who has had problems w/ the BuckMark either, but I'm new to that world.

          Aftermarket: from what I've seen, advantage Ruger. There seems to be a lot of ways to customize your BuckMark, but again I'm new to that world but I know the Ruger aftermarket is strong.

          If I were to only buy one, as much as it pains me to say, it would be a BuckMark*

          *Disclaimer: There's lots of BuckMark's out there, as the is lots of Ruger Marks. This is based solely on 1 day of shooting this one single BuckMark, vs owning 3 different Mark's for nearly a decade from start to finish.

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          • #50
            I want some of that pretty different colored laminate like on the Ruger. Neat looking stuff for those who like flashey.
            http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
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            Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
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            • #51
              Thank you...that has helped me much.
              -The Destroyer Approaches
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              • #52
                Originally posted by Bawanna45cal View Post
                I want some of that pretty different colored laminate like on the Ruger. Neat looking stuff for those who like flashey.

                make your own. You're a fart smeller... I mean smart feller.......

                cut some tight grained wood into thin verneer, bleach it, stain it into your choice of colors, laminate it together, then diagonal cut to get your pattern

                sounds like I know what I'm talking about?

                naahhhh.... I just always wanted to try it

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                • #53
                  I've got a ruger Mark III Hunter w/ the 6 inch barrel and It's incredable. The trigger is amazing too. I think the 22/45 would be OK too. But it's nothing like shooting my CW9 or my .45. Different beast. but it is FUN!!!!!!!1
                  The only thing better than having all the guns and ammo you'd ever need would be being able to shoot it all off the back porch.

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                  • #54
                    Buckeye ... where did you get the buckmark multi color wood grips?
                    "Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy." Proverbs 31: 8-9
                    Arsenal:
                    Browning Buckmark -- XDm9c -- XD9SC -- P380 -- DD XV AR

                    Looking To Add:
                    (1) Pink Kahr P380

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                    • #55
                      Buckeye gave a good comparison of the STOCK Ruger... with only a little effort, you can take out the sluggish trigger slop, remove the klutzy magazine safety, and make that trigger MUCH more shoot-able.

                      I've "fixed" 2 of my 3 Ruger MkIIIs (the third is left bone stock for training), and it is a dream to shoot after the mods.

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                      • #56
                        I was on the Ruger forum a while back, and have only heard of one person shooting out a MKII. 150,000+ rounds and he finally shot out the barrel. Ruger told him to send it back, they'd rehab it, and send it back to him for free. That's a ton of shooting, and 40 some years of doing it.
                        Attitude: it takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile...and 3 for proper trigger squeeze.

                        The olive branch is considered a symbol of peace, and good will. Last time I checked, it's still a switch.

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                        • #57
                          First I have to get the mushing out of the way...Thank you all SO much for your input...there are not too many forums that a thread can go on like this one, really a credit to our special breed , I mean our forum

                          I got up this morning ready to get my .22 ordered up. I was 99% sure is was going to be the Ruger 22/45 TALO Edition 4.5". I wanted to have one more look around before I pressed the button. I'm glad that I did.
                          I found a Browning promotional Buckmark Camper UBX at Bud's Guns this sweetheart comes with the FO sights, a Browning pistol rug and best of all 3 10round mags for $386 shipped. I also recently found a local FFL that does transfers for $20....
                          I ordered one right away.
                          How can you beat this deal on a Buckmark Camper for $406 otd?

                          Here's the stock pic for now
                          Last edited by PaiN; 02-17-2011, 06:24 AM.
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                          • #58
                            Nice gun, good choice, good price. You're going to love the trigger.

                            Here's my Buckmark Field 5.5.
                            Judging by today's left wing, looks like Senator Joe McCarthy was right after all.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by ripley16 View Post
                              Nice gun, good choice, good price. You're going to love the trigger.
                              Nice looking Buckmark rip... Yesterday morning I made a quick stop at a small LGS, they had Buckmark UDX 4.5" slabside with basic sights. So I got to handle one. I loved the UDX feel, its like a handful of quality and yes the trigger was damn nice.
                              I didn't jump on it because they were asking $400+tax and it only came with one mag, plus I knew I needed to look around some more.
                              Last edited by PaiN; 02-17-2011, 09:15 AM.
                              -The Destroyer Approaches
                              eyes to the south

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by PaiN View Post
                                ...
                                I found a Browning promotional Buckmark Camper UBX at Bud's Guns this sweetheart comes with the FO sights, a Browning pistol rug and best of all 3 10round mags for $386 shipped. I also recently found a local FFL that does transfers for $20....
                                I ordered one right away.
                                How can you beat this deal on a Buckmark Camper for $406 otd?

                                Here's the stock pic for now
                                Nice find
                                One thing to keep in mind with the "Camper" is to not over tighten the two sight base screws. The Camper sight base (in the photo above, it's the black rib above the rear of the barrel running to the end of the slide) is made of plastic/polymer and can crack if torqued down too much. Alternatively, you can replace it with an alloy one from another model BM or an aftermarket base. Aftermarket bases usually are designed for optics, but Tactical Solutions make one with an integral adjustable rear sight:
                                http://www.tacticalsol.com/products/...category_id=20
                                here are a couple of useful links:
                                http://chim.embarqspace.com/#/dissecting/4529714459
                                http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...d.php?t=212717
                                Originally posted by PaiN View Post
                                Nice looking Buckmark rip... Yesterday morning I made a quick stop at a small LGS, they had Buckmark UDX 4.5" slabside with basic sights. So I got to handle one. I loved the UDX feel, its like a handful of quality and yes the trigger was damn nice.
                                I didn't jump on it because they were asking $400+tax and it only came with one mag, plus I knew I needed to look around some more.
                                I agree, that's is a nice looking BM Field; though, I'm kind of partial to my UDX PLus;

                                Regards,
                                Greg
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