DLC is POS

[jocko]

I would

I have had a p9 for less than a month and the finish is so thin that I scratched it with my wedding ring while installing a slip on grip. There were also some small spots where it looked like stainless shows through, but I wasn't going to worry about it till it scratched so easy. I just got off the phone with tech at Kahr and was told that they do not warranty finishes. It kinda ticks me off that the finish is so easy to screw up.

take your complaint another step higher, as a month is not something that kahr should try to skirt around on. That finsih a sthey state is harder than hell and they say damn near impossable to scratch even and to saya they do not guarantee a finish, well tome that is B.S. It is part of the way you bought the gun from kahr, They are IMO responsivble for puttingout a good finish and as duralbe as they advertise. Take it higher. U can just send the slide to them through regular mail even..

benice but also be affirmative to your issue to. Ask for eion Pryol or Jay .

[crazymailman]

Thanks Jocko, I'll give that a try.

[Bawanna]

I always emphasise "be nice". Ugly gets you now where in a big hurry.

Firm but nice.

[crazymailman]

Thanks Bawanna. Yeah, being a jerk can get the phone slammed in your ear.

[hsart]

I was wondering what ever happened with that spotty finished gun. I told Bob Holmes about it and gave him the link to your posts.

I've come to find out that the DLC finish is not as tough as I thought it would be, for all the high-tech process and all. I suspect some pistols are better finished than others.

Wynn

Hey Wynn... I was down for a several months with some kidney stones and left the forum after I received the new P380 black slide from Kahr... I have not even shot any rounds through it but am getting back to the range in the next week. The new slide looks good and if there are any issues with the finish I'll post here.

[Goffman]

Any further word on the finish issues? My brand new black PM9 is showing some finish wear (stainless showing through) in two tiny spots in "corners" (pointy-ish spots) opposite one another on the top front of the slide. I haven't carried the pistol for any significant amount of time, so I know it's not holster wear, although, if any spot is eventually going to show wear, I would expect it to be these spots. I assume that the finish didn't quite "take" in these two spots. Not sure if it's worth sending back, except that the spots seem to be growing ever so slowly. Any thoughts? I take really good care of my pistols, so I'm troubled by the premature issues with the finish.

By the way, the pistol has been flawless in all other respects. My wife's black P380 does not show these same issues with finish even though she has been carrying her pistol for a number of months now.

If I could be sure that the slide would be replaced with one that has no problems at all, I would send it back immediately. But, I'm not sure that I want to risk trading one problem for (potentially) another. On the other hand, if the spots are going to continue to grow, I want to send it back now while I can still claim truthfully that I haven't carried the pistol any significant amount.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Input? All are welcome.

[jocko]

goffman: THEY WOULD replace your slide, they would not refinish it again. Kahr does not do the dlc work in the first place. If it wasmine and it was working flawlesslly, I would just shoot it like I stole it.No guaratnee the next slide is going to be any betterI am not making excuses for their fiish eiher, so don't take it that way I would think over time certain areas would start to show some type of wear anyhow,no matter how good the finish is. But again it is your gun and everyone wants their guns to be a certain way,and I don't fault them for that either..

[Goffman]

goffman: THEY WOULD replace your slide, they would not refinish it again. Kahr does not do the dlc work in the first place. If it wasmine and it was working flawlesslly, I would just shoot it like I stole it.No guaratnee the next slide is going to be any betterI am not making excuses for their fiish eiher, so don't take it that way I would think over time certain areas would start to show some type of wear anyhow,no matter how good the finish is. But again it is your gun and everyone wants their guns to be a certain way,and I don't fault them for that either..

Thanks, Jocko. I'm kind of leaning toward leaving well enough alone. My only real concern is that the finish may continue to wear off, and that, down the road, I won't be able to make a truthful claim of minimal carry. In other words, I've had the pistol for only two months, so everyone would agree that it shouldn't be showing finish wear at this point. It would be a different story a year from now, and Kahr may be less likely to want to "help a brother out" at that point. If the finish doesn't wear any further, no problems. But, if the wear continues or accelerates, I'm going to need to do something about it.

Regardless of the minor issues with the finish, this PM9 is a sweet pistol. I wish I had bought one sooner.

[jocko]

I understand and that is a decision tha tyou are going to have to make. I wouldsay getting anew slide wouldnot hinder reliability either, but again one never knows. If it was mine, I would pass on it carry it a few more years and see what it looks like and if it looks like crapolsa,send it off to a refinisher and have it coated "RIGHT". I agree after a fewyears kahr is going to tellyou that is a normal wear thing. Not saying your are either but some people are just hards on guns more than others. The dlc finishjk"should" be durable ashell it has a rockwell of above 70, about twice as strong as the stainless under it would rockwell but again ifthe finish is not right, it won't hold up. Kahr has no way of knowing that until it is to late and that is why I do think they would take care of you now if you send the slide back to them. U can send it back for about $5 and not the entire gun. If you decide to do that I wouldl call and chat with them.. They will probably tell you to send it back and if they say the want the entire gun, then u should insisit of kahr picking up te gun for you prepaid, other wise it is very costly on ur part.

Two months should not produce what your seeing, IMO. Hellyour in Michigan, to damn cold right now to do much . U would probably get the new slide within a week if u sendit ihn.

[srice425]

i just got mine back from them. its the same slide and got refinished with a 2 week turn around.

[Goffman]

i just got mine back from them. its the same slide and got refinished with a 2 week turn around.

Do you happen to have before and after pictures? I'd love to see how the refinish worked out. If not, what do you think of the work?

[jocko]

Thats

i just got mine back from them. its the same slide and got refinished with a 2 week turn around.

good to hear, for if they will refinish your existing good working slide, then IMO it is worth a trip back if it is not right. CanI askhow youcan tell it is ur old slide???

[srice425]

good to hear, for if they will refinish your existing good working slide, then IMO it is worth a trip back if it is not right. CanI askhow youcan tell it is ur old slide???

i took some pics of the underside wear of the slide and they matched up.

[srice425]

Do you happen to have before and after pictures? I'd love to see how the refinish worked out. If not, what do you think of the work?

i dont have any new pics. it looked brand new, but, after a day of holstering/reholstering, i can already see some small silver scratches.

i dont think that the dlc finish is as strong as what they advertise. maybe i just had too high of expectations. i dont know. if i were you, i wouldnt send it back unless it was really bothering me. you would prob get it back and have the same experience with time.

[jocko]

please read

i dont have any new pics. it looked brand new, but, after a day of holstering/reholstering, i can already see some small silver scratches.

i dont think that the dlc finish is as strong as what they advertise. maybe i just had too high of expectations. i dont know. if i were you, i wouldnt send it back unless it was really bothering me. you would prob get it back and have the same experience with time.

Good afternoon. We are unable to refinish or coat any stainless slide that
is DLC as the coating is actually heat treated and put on as the slide is
being manufactured. I hope this information helps


got this from kahr awhile back when I was inquirng for a shooter. I didn't think kahr was able to mess with any refinish stuff: What u have is a NEW SLIDE..

srice425. take a lead pencil with the eraser, rub where those scratchs are showing through and see if they dissappear. Ihave been told sometimes this will take them away. Probably B. S. but let us know,..