Longer-range self defense.

[Chuck54]

I tried some 100 yard shots with a G30sf not too long ago.....out of the first 9 rounds 3 hit the silhouette....I was feeling lucky.

So if I had a loved one in the same area as my intended target at 100 yards I would never take the shot with a handgun.

[Jeremiah/Az]

I have some ex's. They're gone, but I can still hear them b*tchin' !

Not a snubby, but do ya'll remember an old cowboy named Elmer Keith? He made some unbelievable shots @ over 100 yards with his .44.

[Jeremiah/Az]

I have that book. Great read!

[Bawanna]

Use to enjoy watching him and Jack O'Connor butt heads. It was good stuff.

[Jeremiah/Az]

Wasn't it O'Conner who thought the .270 was the best thing since sliced bread?

[Bawanna]

Thats the one alright. He was into super fast and light bullets.

Ole Elmer was into big and heavy. And he was a remarkable shot with that 44 of his.

[Catshooter]

At the distances Elmer could connect with that four incher, he was shooting a snub.

See? Some people can shoot.


Cat

[jlottmc]

Ok, right now the current record for longest hit with a handgun is 174 yards. It was done with a 4" bbl 357 with 158 gr Golden Sabers if I recall the article from Mas. Here's the thing, the shooter practiced regularly at obscene pistol ranges. That shot at the AF base was mentioned in an earlier article and it was about 84 yards. What these have in common is the fact that ALL of them were done by LE. That is the only way to survive that in court I believe. Us would not be able to justify that kind of shot, unless and this is a thin maybe, we were in a state that allows defense of a third party. Thing about that is, you still have to be able to show that a. the person you were defending needed defending b. that they would have been able to use deadly force c. that your actions put no one else in danger, and were the only recourse.
I am all about practice for strange sh!t, but you still have to consider the law any time that weapon comes out.

[jeepster09]

Well I guess the scene COULD HAPPEN, like the saying goes...."you can't fix stupid"! Sometimes you need some stupid people so that the bad guys can practice their muggings and it won't affect the general population.....
Why anyone would ever get into the described situation is beyond me. "into a known bad area and park in remote area" perhaps they are just .....oh never mind I won't say it.:40:

"This sort of attack is quite common in this area at this time. They always injure, sometimes rape, sometimes kill."

[Catshooter]

jlot,

You make some valid points. If you read my original post, you'll see that the situation posted agrees with you: a. the person needed defending, b. two young men against one woman is certainly well within "deadly force", and c. no one else was put in danger and there was no other recourse.

jeep,

I didn't say it was a known bad area, I said that these sort of attacks had been happening in the area. As a current example, have there been home invasions in your area? That sort of thing, not meaning in the park that they were in specifcally.

The written word is very limited.


Cat