for kimber solo owners or soon to be

[OldLincoln]

Let's play a game with pricing.... Lets say they increase 9mm sales by 100% and 50% of those came out of the PM9 and 50% from increase of market share. If they have 5% of the market before they end up with 7.5%. If they sell 2,000 units a year of CM9 and loose 1,000 units of PM9, they still gain $650K revenue per year.

All hypothetical but I'd sure like to know what the numbers really are.

[O'Dell]

The numbers may work on the much higher volume 9mm, but maybe not on the 40 and 45. I guess we'll see.

[O'Dell]

[ They also had to take into consideration guns like the lc9 and others that are selling for far less than the PM line of kahrs.



All the new 'small' carry guns from SIG, Kimber, Ruger, etc are 9mm which was handled by the CM9. The PM40 and 45 don't have much competition.

[O'Dell]

That may be changing quickly http://ruger.com/products/sr40c/models.html



Caliber: .40 S&W Grip Frame: Black, High Performance, Glass-Filled Nylon Sights: Adjustable 3-Dot Length: 6.85" Height: 4.61" Width: 1.27" Grooves: 6 Barrel Length: 3.50" Twist: 1:16" RH

The SR9c and SR40c are much larger guns than the LC9. It is not a pocket pistol like the other small 'wonder nines'. It's quite a bit larger even than my CW40 which is certainly not a pocket gun.

[tv_racin_fan]

Agreed. Train one way for all guns, tap, rack, assess/ bang.

I agree one way for all guns. Pull trigger, if you get no bang first try pull it again. I aint never figured out the tap-rack-bang sequence for a revolver...

[Barth]

I agree one way for all guns. Pull trigger, if you get no bang first try pull it again. I aint never figured out the tap-rack-bang sequence for a revolver...

LOL!
Revolvers?
For me it's the (&&(, I'm out of ammo! Begin the pistol whipping sequence.

[CJB]

Gotta say... its to be expected that Kimber has some teething pains with the new pistol. That is not unexpected, and its how they make 'em right that matters.

My PM9, bought used, has been 100 percent, totally, completely, utterly problem free for all the time I've owned it. Thanks to its first owner taking such good care of it, and breaking it in properly. Great pocket pistol... just great pistol period. Don't mess with perfection!

[tv_racin_fan]

LOL!
Revolvers?
For me it's the (&&(, I'm out of ammo! Begin the pistol whipping sequence.

IT amazes me how many peolple think everyone carrys the same style of firearm.

IF you are out of ammo on the first shot you got some issues to work out...

Hey can you explain to me the tap rack fire sequence for a flintlock? I swear I must be totally stupid....

No.. wait... I got it I think... see on the flintlock it aint a tap rack fire sequence.. no it is the wipe, pick, prime, close, co ck, fire sequence. IF that dont work after two or three tries then you get to go the the pull ram rod, install ball puller, tie to ram rod to tree, pull gun off ram rod and ball, untie ram rod, uninstall ball puller, install cleaning jag, run couple patches down bore, prime pan, close frizzen, flash the pan, wipe pan clean, measure load, pour in barrel, ram patched ball, replace ramrod, prime pan and close frizzen, co ck the umm eerrr co ck, PULL TRIGGER sequence.

Ever notice how the flintlock pistols bad in the day had a big ole knob on the grip? THAT was so you could turn the dern thing around and use it as a war club to defend yourself.

[Bawanna]

IT amazes me how many peolple think everyone carrys the same style of firearm.

IF you are out of ammo on the first shot you got some issues to work out...

Hey can you explain to me the tap rack fire sequence for a flintlock? I swear I must be totally stupid....

No.. wait... I got it I think... see on the flintlock it aint a tap rack fire sequence.. no it is the wipe, pick, prime, close, co ck, fire sequence. IF that dont work after two or three tries then you get to go the the pull ram rod, install ball puller, tie to ram rod to tree, pull gun off ram rod and ball, untie ram rod, uninstall ball puller, install cleaning jag, run couple patches down bore, prime pan, close frizzen, flash the pan, wipe pan clean, measure load, pour in barrel, ram patched ball, replace ramrod, prime pan and close frizzen, co ck the umm eerrr co ck, PULL TRIGGER sequence.

Ever notice how the flintlock pistols bad in the day had a big ole knob on the grip? THAT was so you could turn the dern thing around and use it as a war club to defend yourself.

You've gotta be one of the smartest men alive. I remember one time out in the sticks shooting my muzzle stuffer w/cap not flintlock. I'd shoot and the guys with me would meander down to the target, have a smoke, maybe a cup of coffee all while I was trying to load as fast as I possibly could.
The war club would be a handy tool in any sort of battle.

[Frankhenrylee]

At this point Im just wondering how many PM9's Jocko has?

And to another point. Are we destined to have to live threw the growing pains that are attributed to new guns or anything new for that matter. Why is it if you buy anything these days there's always an offer of an extended warranty or some other crap that they want you to pay for so that you can be protected from product failure. I see extended warranties for guns coming along real soon. Never buy anything the first year or two it's out. The bean counters at these companies are more than willing to have you test out thier products on your dime. I hate it when I see people making excuses for new products like its OK to sell crap.

If it's cheap then you know you shouldn't expect much, but when it's expensive demand it to be what you paid for.