Hand Cannons Please. What's your Super Mas Macho pistol?

[wyntrout]

Wiki: The term "hand cannon" has come to mean any handgun-type weapon that is abnormally large by handgun standards. Excellent examples would be the Smith & Wesson Model 29 and the IMI Desert Eagle.

Just one of many definitions. I would say .44 magnum or larger, but not necessarily a "magnum". The .454 Casull comes to mind, especially the full-bore loads. I think the .45 ACP fits, too, especially in a small platform like the Kahrs.

Wynn

[Barth]

I thought it was determined by the length of the flame coming out the barrel upon firing.

Yup, Yup.
I looked it up and a one foot flame is an absolute minimum first requirement.

I think the second is ridiculous penetration.
Including having a record of killing just about every type of wild animal that walks the face of the earth.
Yes, that should do it for now. I may come up with some more later...

[wyntrout]

ONE foot isn't that much!

Here are some stills of my PM9... the NINE... firing 124-grain +P Gold Dots from Double Tap. They dropped that load after I bought several hundred.
I don't think the powder was very LOW FLASH!

Wynn

[Foggy]

You guys are gonna laugh but one of my versions of a hand cannon is my S&W Model 431PD. It's a 32 H&R Magnum in an alloy frame 2" barrel that only hits the scale @ 13 ounces. Not to many people will shoot more than a cylinder full as the felt recoil is astounding. However I have developed quite a fondness to this little pea shooter after coming up with a load for it that really works. 90 gr. Sierra JHC that's doin 1000 FPS drops jack's right where they stand. Of course it helps to have the Crimson Trace Laser Grips on it as well. And for some unknown reason I seem to hit what I'm aiming at with regularity. Out to about 25 YDS. With the size & weight I easily forget I'm carrying the little buger. Half the weight of my K9 ...

[Barth]

Whatchoo talkin bout.....
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After decades I noticed ALL of my ex's were brunette.
Now I look at my guns and... LOL!

[Barth]

You guys are gonna laugh but one of my versions of a hand cannon is my S&W Model 431PD. It's a 32 H&R Magnum in an alloy frame 2" barrel that only hits the scale @ 13 ounces. Not to many people will shoot more than a cylinder full as the felt recoil is astounding. However I have developed quite a fondness to this little pea shooter after coming up with a load for it that really works. 90 gr. Sierra JHC that's doin 1000 FPS drops jack's right where they stand. Of course it helps to have the Crimson Trace Laser Grips on it as well. And for some unknown reason I seem to hit what I'm aiming at with regularity. Out to about 25 YDS. With the size & weight I easily forget I'm carrying the little buger. Half the weight of my K9 ...

My S&W 342 ti weights 11.6 ounces (14.0 loaded) with 135 gr +P at 860 fps.
I think of it as a Pocket Rocket and it kicks like one too!
Check the Speer FBI protocol test results -
http://www.speer-ammo.com/products/bullet_tests.htm


Update:
Just for fun -
-----Weight-Unloaded/Loaded---Bullets
S&W 342 38 --- 11.6/14.0 ---(5/135 grain)
Kahr MK40 40-- 24.9/28.5 ---(6/180 grain)
Sig P239 357--- 30.3/34.0 ---(8/125)
Sig P220 45 --- 31.1/36.3 ---(8/185 grain)
S&W 629 44 --- 38.1/43.3 ---(6/240 grain) << Light Weight Mountain Revolver

[Foggy]

Yeah Barth. Ya gotta love that new Speer 135 Gr. GDHP load. It is exactly what the market needed for the snub nose .38 Special. That's what I use now in my 3" Nickel Plated Mod 36 w/Heavy Barrel and I don't think you could ask for a better round in that gun. It shoots sweet & accurate and the ballistic gel test including my own are phenomenal ...

[Barth]

Acceptable Revolver Alternatives -

[Barth]

Yeah Barth. Ya gotta love that new Speer 135 Gr. GDHP load. It is exactly what the market needed for the snub nose .38 Special. That's what I use now in my 3" Nickel Plated Mod 36 w/Heavy Barrel and I don't think you could ask for a better round in that gun. It shoots sweet & accurate and the ballistic gel test including my own are phenomenal ...

Absolutely, I've been waiting for reliable expansion/penetration from a 2 inch barrel.
Was running Federal 129 +P Hydra-Shoks. I'm much happier now.

Use Speer Short Barrel in my MK40 as well!
Now they are making a 22 mag Short Barrel....
http://www.speer-ammo.com/products/954.htm
A Black Widow might be in my future - LOL!

[Barth]

Pfeifer Zeliska .600 Nitro Express

The .600 Nitro Express Zeliska revolver is an Austrian single-action revolver produced by Pfeifer firearms.
It is the largest handgun in the world, weighing in at 6.001 kilograms (13.230 lb) and having a length of 55 centimetres (22 in).
The cylinder section alone weighs 2.041 kilograms (4.500 lb).
The Zeliska is also the most powerful handgun in the world, producing a muzzle energy of over 6 kilojoules (4,400 ft·lbf).
The weight of the gun helps control the recoil, making controlled shooting possible.
The capacity of a Zeliska is five .600 Nitro Express or .458 Win Mag rounds.
The Zeliska fires a .600 Nitro Express slug at 462 metres per second (1,660 km/h; 1,030 mph).
The cost of a Zeliska revolver is over $16,000.
Each .600 Nitro Express round costs $40,
making this gun very expensive to fire.
Loading is accomplished through a loading gate located
on the right of the cylinder, similar to the Colt Single Action Army.

The Pfeifer- Zeliska .600 Nitro Express Magnum is 8 times more powerful than a Smith and Wesson.44 magnum
and 3 times more powerful than the Smith and Wesson .50 Magnum.
As handguns go, this is the absolute ultimate.

[Bawanna]

Ain't nobody gonna top that one. Now that is a hand cannon without question. I'd love to shoot that thing, just to see if I live thru it. I can't even comprehend what it would be like.

Maybe someone will make a you tube video of it being shot.

[Barth]

Ain't nobody gonna top that one. Now that is a hand cannon without question. I'd love to shoot that thing, just to see if I live thru it. I can't even comprehend what it would be like.

Maybe someone will make a you tube video of it being shot.

40 bucks a bullet? Are you kidding me?
This is a different gun. But I think the same ammo? 600 Nitro Express
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZL797pOAZ0

[ltxi]

Absolutely, I've been waiting for reliable expansion/penetration from a 2 inch barrel.
Was running Federal 129 +P Hydra-Shoks. I'm much happier now.

Use Speer Short Barrel in my MK40 as well!
Now they are making a 22 mag Short Barrel....
http://www.speer-ammo.com/products/954.htm
A Black Widow might be in my future - LOL!

Thanks for that note on the .22 mag short barrel. I'm great fan of Gold Dots and the NAA .22 mag mini is one of my regular carry guns.

[Barth]

Thanks for that note on the .22 mag short barrel. I'm great fan of Gold Dots and the NAA .22 mag mini is one of my regular carry guns.

You’re very welcome.
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Or at least I entertain myself - LoL!
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[les strat]

From another post, here is my new-to-me S&W 629-6 Classic 5" .44 mag.