9mm Carbine?

[Barth]

Uh oh.....yours? And just when I'd sworn off any more NFA arms. Ok, I swore off any more of those a few years ago, but I'm hopefully within a year of final (third time) retirement and am going to need something more and expensive to occupy my time.

LOL! - no not mine...
I do have a pistol grip Mossberg 500 12 gauge, P220/45 and a Bianchi class III-A vest.
Always wanted an assault rifle and suppressors.
But I rent, don't have a safe and just can't justify it - yet...

[mr surveyor]

If I were to buy another rimless round pistol caliber carbine, it would most likely be another Sub2K. The portability is a real plus, if you choose to not mount a bunch of "stuff" on it. I don't remember who made the steel blade front sight for them for a short time, but I do remember kicking myself in the butt for not getting one for my carbine. The "hi-viz" plastic front blades actually work fine, and I don't remember anyone having problems. One thing to be leery of is aluminum or steel cased ammunition. Due to the blowback action, and other design characteristics, non-brass rounds just will not properly cycle and could result in some serious malfunctions. I never worried anyway since I figured such cheap crap ammunition (particularly steel cased) was for use in cheap crap commie firearms anyway.

As for the CX4, I think Beretta was (almost) top shelf with the design. Their problems were with a plastic buffer that seemed to be a weak point, as well as the plastic trigger with no adjustment. Both of those problems were remedied by a very enterprising gentleman that participated on the Beretta forum, and his products were actually picked up by Brownells for market. He let the members of the Beretta forum beta test his designs and they had rave reviews. The fact that the CX4 is 100% ambidextrious, as well as capable of "hybrid dexterity" is also a plus. The price tag, in my opinion just ain't worth the investment.

more later... maybe

[nmkahrshooter]

I would check a Highpoint! Nice shooter and not expensive, decent shooter too!

[JFootin]

For us lefties, Beretta has the Cx4 Storm in 9 mm, also in .40 S&W and 45 ACP. Everything, including ejection, extraction and all control levers can be reversed. I want one! The 9 mm ones can be had either to accept 92 Series mags or Px4 Storm mags if you want to match it up with a duty or carry pistol.

[gb6491]

I like the Sub2000: never misses a beat and I can lock it in the center console of my soft top Jeep.

Regards,
Greg

[Barth]

I understand matching ammo.
But for home defense it's just hard to beat a 12 gauge pump shotgun.
I got my Mossberg 500 for $249.

[apdturbo]

keltec sub 2000 would be my pick, but then again i do a lot of hiking/camping so the fact it folds up for a more compact package.

[ripley16]

It isn't 9mm but I do one day want to get a AR57 upper installed on a Colt AR15 to make a mate for my FNH57 pistol. The round is a bunch of fun to shoot and is very suitable for home defense. I shoot with a fellow recently retired from the Secret Service who really likes the 5.7 round. My only complaint with it is that I have to drive further to a range that will allow the use of the round (my local indoor range banned it ).


pic borrowed from Photobucket

[JFootin]

Yeah. The SUB-2000 is a winner. It is so inexpensive, and you can get those Glock 32 round mags for it. :33:

[CJB]

I understand matching ammo.
But for home defense it's just hard to beat a 12 gauge pump shotgun.
I got my Mossberg 500 for $249.

Unless its one of these

Mines paid in full... just waiting for the release date. Should be #12. I see they've released some to the gun-magazines for write-ups. Means they oughta be be getting close. Somehow I think Melissa is gonna want one of these lil'darlin's.....

[JFootin]

What is that? A gas operated semi-auto shotgun? I like!
Edit: No. I see it is a manual slide loaded one. Why the twin tubes? Is it high capacity?

[JFootin]

PREVIEW: Kel-Tec Shotgun (KSG)

01-04-2011
The time for secrecy is nearing its end. This SHOT Show, Kel-Tec will be revealing its next ground-breaking product: the KSG (Kel-Tec Shotgun).

The KSG is our first entry into the shotgun market. The size, shape and design are similar to the currently available Kel-Tec RFB rifle, but the KSG ejects downward, instead of forward. The KSG weighs 6.9lbs and is as compact as legally possible with a 26.1" overall length and an 18.5" cylinder bore barrel. Even with this compact size, the internal dual tube magazines hold an impressive 14 rounds of 12 gage 2-3/4" rounds (7 per tube). The simple and reliable pump action feeds from either the left or right tube. The feed side is manually selected by a lever located behind the trigger guard. The lever can be positioned in the center detent in order to easily clear the chamber without feeding another round from either magazine. A cross bolt style safety blocks the sear, and the pump release lever is located in front of the trigger guard.

The pump includes an under Picatinny rail for the mounting of a forward grip, or a light or laser. The included top Picatinny sight rail will accept many types of optics or iron sights. Forward and rear sling loops are built in, and a basic sling is included. The soft rubber butt pad helps to tame recoil.

MSRP has not been officially been set, but we are looking at the $800.00 range.

[jeepster09]

There is always the little 12's to play with....:=]

[yqtszhj]

OK. that's enough now. I'm getting the 9mm carbine itch. The Beretta looks good but the Keltec and Hi-Point price cant be beat.

[mr surveyor]

OK. that's enough now. I'm getting the 9mm carbine itch. The Beretta looks good but the Keltec and Hi-Point price cant be beat.

well.... you could always look around a bit and find a hi-point fitted with one of their cheesy knock-off versions of the Beretta stock