Riots scheduled for September 17th.

[Rainman48314]

Gentlemen,

As always, history is subject to interpretation. I suspect this group might be protesting the way many countries appear to have been sold out to the Rothchilds and similar central bankers, possibly including our own.

You can Google it for details, but central banks have been in the business of financing wars since before the time of Napoleon. The resulting debt may be partly responsible for our current economic woes. Needless to say, the central banks support the UN initiatives to disarm the general populace of the US as they have much of Europe.

I'm not sure these protesters are necessarily bad guys. That may be why they are appealing to all political groups for support, not just "liberals".

Certainly, they have a tough row to hoe, given that our Supreme Court has just made it perfectly legal for big money to buy elections.

I tend to agree with you. The 95% of this country making under $150,000 per year have a lot more in common than the Right vs. Left rhetoric would have you believe.

[Rainman48314]

Too much hype on the web and cable news?

I don't get it either, are they protesting the O'dummy hasn't been leaning left enough? That we aren't a totally Marxist state yet? Or is this supposed to be a fun time or something? Who knows, I sure don't know what to make of it, just thought I'd get the word out that it might be a good day to stay home or pack an extra mag or two.

Those who believe Obama to be a Marxist need to explain why he maintained the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Why sign the Patriot Act? Why keep GITMO open? Notice the military-industrial complex still getting richer thanks to 2.5 wars? Obama acts more like Bush. I hope to hear some arguments about Bush being a Leftist. Just saying

... and I will not be voting for Obama in 2012 but I will have reasons which will not include the trivial (his half uncle was stopped for a DUI, he uses a teleprompter, he misspoke about how many States he visited etc). It won't be because I think he's a Kenyan, the new Chairman Mao, or the center of any other off the wall theories. He's just not delivered on many promises and he is as clueless as McCain was/is about the economy.

[Rainman48314]

Glad I got that off my chest, fire away..on the keyboard, please

Have a great night.

[TheTman]

I didn't mean to sound dishonest of inflammatory in my title, that just the way it was put to me in an email. Maybe I should have said demonstrations planned for....
My guess is they picked a saturday so more working people could attend.
I did not say that O'Dummy was a Marxist, but large numbers of his supporters are. As for his personal beliefs, I'd suggest reading "The Roots of Obama's Rage" which puts forth many theories about how O'bama really feels about this country and wants to "punish" us for our past behaviour.
Maintaining the Bush tax cuts, was just politics as usual and a wise move. I think keeping Gitmo open was his only logical choice. No state wanted those people on their hands. I'm not real keen on the Patriot act, it allows too much invasion of privacy. I disagreed with Republicans on a lot of stuff they did while they had control of both houses and the Presidency, they wasted a great opportunity to get this country back on track.
After 9/11 the public demanded "justice" hence 2 of the wars, I think Iraq has a possibility of a reasonable outcome, but no one has ever conquered Afghanistan, and I wish we could find a way to get out of there. Artificial withdraw dates play right into the Taliban's hands, all they have to do is lay low until we leave then swoop in and retake the country.
At least Bush supported our troops and was a real Commander-in-Chief. I don't think everything he did was right, but he is a basically honest and decent man. I think O'bama has a real dislike for soldiers and police and others serving our country. I didn't agree with most of O'bamas campain promises, except he was going to give the public 2 weeks to read up and comment on any bill before it was voted on, and promised a lot more transparency to the actions of congress, both of which were thrown out the window as soon as he took office. I can't think of one campaign promise he did keep, which is mostly a good thing in my opinion.
As for the warning, I believe anything that ACORN or it's successors cooks up cannot be in the best interest of conservative Americans, and who knows what their true agenda is. I think they are hoping for trouble and clashes with conservatives in order to make the news. I think they'd really like to see it get out of control and turn into something like the riots that England recently went through, perhaps forcing Martial Law to be declared so the govt. could reall trample our rights. That's just my gut feeling about this. As was mentioned earlier, I hope no one decides to play sheriff that day, and provide the sparks they need to turn demonstrations into riots. People are already angry and disillusioned with the way things are going, and it wouldn't take much to push many of them over the edge.
I actually agree with some of their stated objectives, such as pointing out how Wall Street and the Big Banks and Federal Reserve are largely responsible for this finanacial mess we are in. I just don't believe that's what this is all about. It's being billed as a "Day of Rage" which just doesn't sit well with me. To me that sounds more like riots, than a peaceful protest. I just see where more harm than good could come from this. But then again, I'm just a dumb ole hick from Kansas who couldn't possibly survive without the government intervening in every aspect of my life.

[Chief Joseph]

My fear would be that other radical groups might show up and make it a violent event for sure.
Thanks for the warning, and yes, I will have a BUG and a little extra ammo. Hmmm. That Mossy tactical persuader will fit behind the truck seat nicley on the 17th.

"other"? radical groups, as though acorn and the seiu aren't the most violent radicals there are right now? These clowns are violent enough just by their lonesome. Funny how Conservatives make holders "watch" list, yet these scum are free to pummel America day in and day out.

[Rainman48314]

My take...

I didn't mean to sound dishonest of inflammatory in my title, that just the way it was put to me in an email. Maybe I should have said demonstrations planned for....
My guess is they picked a saturday so more working people could attend.
I did not say that O'Dummy was a Marxist, but large numbers of his supporters are. As for his personal beliefs, I'd suggest reading "The Roots of Obama's Rage" which puts forth many theories about how O'bama really feels about this country and wants to "punish" us for our past behaviour.
Maintaining the Bush tax cuts, was just politics as usual and a wise move. I think keeping Gitmo open was his only logical choice. No state wanted those people on their hands. I'm not real keen on the Patriot act, it allows too much invasion of privacy. I disagreed with Republicans on a lot of stuff they did while they had control of both houses and the Presidency, they wasted a great opportunity to get this country back on track.
After 9/11 the public demanded "justice" hence 2 of the wars, I think Iraq has a possibility of a reasonable outcome, but no one has ever conquered Afghanistan, and I wish we could find a way to get out of there. Artificial withdraw dates play right into the Taliban's hands, all they have to do is lay low until we leave then swoop in and retake the country.
At least Bush supported our troops and was a real Commander-in-Chief. I don't think everything he did was right, but he is a basically honest and decent man. I think O'bama has a real dislike for soldiers and police and others serving our country. I didn't agree with most of O'bamas campain promises, except he was going to give the public 2 weeks to read up and comment on any bill before it was voted on, and promised a lot more transparency to the actions of congress, both of which were thrown out the window as soon as he took office. I can't think of one campaign promise he did keep, which is mostly a good thing in my opinion.
As for the warning, I believe anything that ACORN or it's successors cooks up cannot be in the best interest of conservative Americans, and who knows what their true agenda is. I think they are hoping for trouble and clashes with conservatives in order to make the news. I think they'd really like to see it get out of control and turn into something like the riots that England recently went through, perhaps forcing Martial Law to be declared so the govt. could reall trample our rights. That's just my gut feeling about this. As was mentioned earlier, I hope no one decides to play sheriff that day, and provide the sparks they need to turn demonstrations into riots. People are already angry and disillusioned with the way things are going, and it wouldn't take much to push many of them over the edge.
I actually agree with some of their stated objectives, such as pointing out how Wall Street and the Big Banks and Federal Reserve are largely responsible for this finanacial mess we are in. I just don't believe that's what this is all about. It's being billed as a "Day of Rage" which just doesn't sit well with me. To me that sounds more like riots, than a peaceful protest. I just see where more harm than good could come from this. But then again, I'm just a dumb ole hick from Kansas who couldn't possibly survive without the government intervening in every aspect of my life.

My take on this "Marxist" stuff is that it is just a lazy attempt to demonize a guy you (not you personally) disagree with. I seriously doubt that any significant percentage of Americans are Marxists, therefore, there can't be a significant number of Obama's supporters who are either. No one has ever taken a poll or survey.

In reference to the "Rage" book, let me quote a review from GetReligion.org, "Seldom have 3,500 words conveyed so little real information." http://www.getreligion.org/2011/08/b...istian-a-team/

Talk of martial law, at this stage especially, is pure paranoia.

I think we agree on the futility of the Afghan War, the intrussion of the gov't into our lives, and the view of big Banks.

Hopefull a few candidates will yet emerge who are more centrist.

[Chief Joseph]

Those who believe Obama to be a Marxist need to explain why he maintained the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. Why sign the Patriot Act? Why keep GITMO open? Notice the military-industrial complex still getting richer thanks to 2.5 wars? Obama acts more like Bush. I hope to hear some arguments about Bush being a Leftist. Just saying

... and I will not be voting for Obama in 2012 but I will have reasons which will not include the trivial (his half uncle was stopped for a DUI, he uses a teleprompter, he misspoke about how many States he visited etc). It won't be because I think he's a Kenyan, the new Chairman Mao, or the center of any other off the wall theories. He's just not delivered on many promises and he is as clueless as McCain was/is about the economy.

First of all, comparing Bush to nobama is not proof that nobama is not a marxist. Bush was a progressive. He believed in big gov just like democrats. Using him as your right of the left right benchmark is wrong. Conservatives were not happy with him either. If you want our benchmark, look at the Tea Party, limited gov, low taxes, gov out of our lives and following the Constitution. As far as him keeping the policies of Bush, even after constantly attacking them while in the Senate voting "here" all the time instead of yes or no, that's more an issue of hyprocrisy than beliefs. Don't worry, as soon as they figure out how to hide NOT taxing the super rich like buffet, soros and the other super rich lefty's and only taxing the Conservative rich, the tax cuts will end.

[Chief Joseph]

My take on this "Marxist" stuff is that it is just a lazy attempt to demonize a guy you (not you personally) disagree with. I seriously doubt that any significant percentage of Americans are Marxists, therefore, there can't be a significant number of Obama's supporters who are either. No one has ever taken a poll or survey.

In reference to the "Rage" book, let me quote a review from GetReligion.org, "Seldom have 3,500 words conveyed so little real information." http://www.getreligion.org/2011/08/b...istian-a-team/

Talk of martial law, at this stage especially, is pure paranoia.

I think we agree on the futility of the Afghan War, the intrussion of the gov't into our lives, and the view of big Banks.

Hopefull a few candidates will yet emerge who are more centrist.

Only those with their eyes closed could state that it's "lazy" to assume nobama's a marxist.

http://obamaism.blogspot.com/

[Jeremiah/Az]

How can you be too far right? The biggest mistake the right ever made was to get into the abortion thing, which is not a political subject & never should have been! Religion does not fit there either! Whatever your thoughts are on these 2 subjects , they do not belong in the political arena!

[les strat]

"other"? radical groups, as though acorn and the seiu aren't the most violent radicals there are right now? These clowns are violent enough just by their lonesome. Funny how Conservatives make holders "watch" list, yet these scum are free to pummel America day in and day out.

I agree, but was just refering to any other people that might show up just to destroy and loot for the heck of it. Plenty of people in our country just waiting for that opportunity.

[les strat]

How can you be too far right? The biggest mistake the right ever made was to get into the abortion thing, which is not a political subject & never should have been! Religion does not fit there either! Whatever your thoughts are on these 2 subjects , they do not belong in the political arena!

As a Christian, I do believe and will vote for or against anyone that goes harshly against my moral as well as political beliefs. I am not saying the politician should be an activist in either area, but when he/she attacks something I hold dear, you can bet your life my beliefs will affect my vote.

[yqtszhj]

Wall street isn't open on a Saturday. No one will be around.


But it is nice for them to them to let the cops know that they need to be around. I think I would schedule road work that day on Wall street. Lots of noise with jack hammers and hot blacktop and tar.

They don't want to impact their 401K by protesting on a weekday.

[O'Dell]

I didn't mean to sound dishonest of inflammatory in my title, that just the way it was put to me in an email. Maybe I should have said demonstrations planned for....
My guess is they picked a saturday so more working people could attend.
I did not say that O'Dummy was a Marxist, but large numbers of his supporters are. As for his personal beliefs, I'd suggest reading "The Roots of Obama's Rage" which puts forth many theories about how O'bama really feels about this country and wants to "punish" us for our past behaviour.
Maintaining the Bush tax cuts, was just politics as usual and a wise move. I think keeping Gitmo open was his only logical choice. No state wanted those people on their hands. I'm not real keen on the Patriot act, it allows too much invasion of privacy. I disagreed with Republicans on a lot of stuff they did while they had control of both houses and the Presidency, they wasted a great opportunity to get this country back on track.
After 9/11 the public demanded "justice" hence 2 of the wars, I think Iraq has a possibility of a reasonable outcome, but no one has ever conquered Afghanistan, and I wish we could find a way to get out of there. Artificial withdraw dates play right into the Taliban's hands, all they have to do is lay low until we leave then swoop in and retake the country.
At least Bush supported our troops and was a real Commander-in-Chief. I don't think everything he did was right, but he is a basically honest and decent man. I think O'bama has a real dislike for soldiers and police and others serving our country. I didn't agree with most of O'bamas campain promises, except he was going to give the public 2 weeks to read up and comment on any bill before it was voted on, and promised a lot more transparency to the actions of congress, both of which were thrown out the window as soon as he took office. I can't think of one campaign promise he did keep, which is mostly a good thing in my opinion.
As for the warning, I believe anything that ACORN or it's successors cooks up cannot be in the best interest of conservative Americans, and who knows what their true agenda is. I think they are hoping for trouble and clashes with conservatives in order to make the news. I think they'd really like to see it get out of control and turn into something like the riots that England recently went through, perhaps forcing Martial Law to be declared so the govt. could reall trample our rights. That's just my gut feeling about this. As was mentioned earlier, I hope no one decides to play sheriff that day, and provide the sparks they need to turn demonstrations into riots. People are already angry and disillusioned with the way things are going, and it wouldn't take much to push many of them over the edge.
I actually agree with some of their stated objectives, such as pointing out how Wall Street and the Big Banks and Federal Reserve are largely responsible for this finanacial mess we are in. I just don't believe that's what this is all about. It's being billed as a "Day of Rage" which just doesn't sit well with me. To me that sounds more like riots, than a peaceful protest. I just see where more harm than good could come from this. But then again, I'm just a dumb ole hick from Kansas who couldn't possibly survive without the government intervening in every aspect of my life.

Thanks, you just saved me from typing cramps. Right on point and exactly right!

[O'Dell]

My take on this "Marxist" stuff is that it is just a lazy attempt to demonize a guy you (not you personally) disagree with. I seriously doubt that any significant percentage of Americans are Marxists, therefore, there can't be a significant number of Obama's supporters who are either. No one has ever taken a poll or survey.

In reference to the "Rage" book, let me quote a review from GetReligion.org, "Seldom have 3,500 words conveyed so little real information." http://www.getreligion.org/2011/08/b...istian-a-team/

Talk of martial law, at this stage especially, is pure paranoia.

I think we agree on the futility of the Afghan War, the intrussion of the gov't into our lives, and the view of big Banks.

Hopefull a few candidates will yet emerge who are more centrist.

Well, let's see. His mother was a dedicated Marxist; his father was a dedicated Marxist; his college professors say he was a dedicated Marxist; his activities in college were with Communist Organizations, and he said he only felt comfortable with them; he announced his entry into politics at a reception in the home of a dedicated Marxist and domestic terrorist [Bill Ayers], and the attendees were all dedicated Marxist except for the press.

Either you are pulling our leg big time or you can't see what's right in front of you!!!!

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, acts like a duck, quacks like a duck, and only associates with ducks, I'm calling it a DUCK!

[JFootin]

I had a sick computer and went to a local man for help. He seems to be a genius, with tendencies toward being an Autistic Savant. He is not very good interacting with people. He used to work among the geniuses at Bell Labs. As I was breaking the ice and getting to know him, I let a couple of conservative opinions slip out. He suddenly got very angry and threatened to throw me and my computer out of his shop! It turns out he is a way left wing lunatic! Subscribes to "The Nation," the most Liberal rag in print! Told me I was an irresponsible American citizen because I hadn't read Marx! (I haven't read "Mein Kampf" either. Doesn't make me a bad citizen.)

There are plenty of Marxists in America. Plenty of Saul Alinsky disciples, including O and Hillary, who wrote her senior thesis at Wellesley College in support of his views. Anyone who cannot see clearly how O is following the Alinsky Method, which he taught to other Marxists for 3 years in Chicago, to destroy our economy and republic, is being too lazy to exercise their mind and see through the fog. Union leadership in America and the entire world are Marxists. Acorn and many other radical left organizations are Marxists. The education system is corrupted with Marxism. The news media are seriously corrupted. All of these people, such as Hillary, who proudly identify themselves as Progressives are actually Socialists—Marxists! They just adopted a different name for themselves almost a century ago because the Socialist moniker brought too much negative attention to them.