Is Kahr that bad ?

[Russ]

I have been surfing handgunforum.net and there seems to be a common theme Glocks, S&W, Ruger, Kimber are wonderful. However most every link that mentions Kahr is usually negative.

Is there any validity to all these claims. I purchased a Kahr with very little gun knowledge. My appeal was a 9 mm that was about the size of a 380.

I had no idea there are a good number of people who feel they are on a crusade to tear down Kahr. It's one thing to dislike a product but that site goes out of their way to drive the bus over Kahr and back up over it. Is it the religious background of the owner that get a lot of gun lovers up in arms over Kahr?

[O'Dell]

I have been surfing handgunforum.net and there seems to be a common theme Glocks, S&W, Ruger, Kimber are wonderful. However most every link that mentions Kahr is usually negative.

Is there any validity to all these claims. I purchased a Kahr with very little gun knowledge. My appeal was a 9 mm that was about the size of a 380.

I had no idea there are a good number of people who feel they are on a crusade to tear down Kahr. It's one thing to dislike a product but that site goes out of their way to drive the bus over Kahr and back up over it. Is it the religious background of the owner that get a lot of gun lovers up in arms over Kahr?

You didn't hear it from me but Glocks are terrible, at least I think so. S&W are great, especially the 3rd gen's, but I've never had a M&P fail either. The only pistol that has failed me in the last several years was my Kimber - the standard mags are the pits. SIG's and HK's are just about as perfect as a gun can be. I've had five Kahrs in the last five years - not one problem. Springfields are great too, as long as they are 1911's

BTW, where did you hear that Kahrs are bad? I cruise many gun forums including THR and the Firing Line and most people love them.

[Russ]

Handgunforum.net I was on it last night and a thread what gun would you trust with your life caught my attention. Kahr took a beating. About two weeks ago the same web site unloaded on Kahr. After last night I started wondering if there is any truth. For what ever reason I got the feeling there are some folks that feel compelled to bash on Kahr. Why? I shot a Kimber Solo and honestly it is not s reliable gun but I don't read on the web near the number of negative comments directed at Kimber Solo that Kahr receives.

[jocko]

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I have been surfing handgunforum.net and there seems to be a common theme Glocks, S&W, Ruger, Kimber are wonderful. However most every link that mentions Kahr is usually negative.

Is there any validity to all these claims. I purchased a Kahr with very little gun knowledge. My appeal was a 9 mm that was about the size of a 380.

I had no idea there are a good number of people who feel they are on a crusade to tear down Kahr. It's one thing to dislike a product but that site goes out of their way to drive the bus over Kahr and back up over it. Is it the religious background of the owner that get a lot of gun lovers up in arms over Kahr?

stated after purchasing a kahr how you now feel about the brand. I will say this I read alot on the elsie pea forum and there are alot of kahr owners over there and kahrs are discussed alot on that forum and it is a Ruger forum, b asicaly in direct competition with thier lc9 and most all love the kahrs over the lc9. If thgere is a complaint it is the price but striker fired guns do cost more and kahrs has the best barrel money can buy a simple triger system that is smoother than butter on bread. And sure enough some kahrs give p;roblems to but if you read alot on this forum, u will also see that kahr tries their damdest to give good and quick service on their products. remember one thing this is the internet and many people troll around these gun forums just to stir sh-t with no regard to the product. and then there are some people who buy a gun (any brand) and have issues and can't wait topost their negatives on every fokking gun forum you can find and then it spreads like wildfire. IMO u must have decided to "chance" it and buy a kahr, now I just want tyo know if ur happy.

[jocko]

see even O'dell thinks glocks are terriblel. I tend to say my G19 is the finest shooting firearm I have ever had. The majority will not agree with O'dell but he could go on every damn gun forum and state his negatives and then ur gonna read where a poster is now asking questions about the issues with glocks etc.

remember opinions are just that opinions.

[TomMc]

I go to a ton of gun shows here in Texas--maybe 10 a year plus. The Texas shows are all huge with 800 to 2000 tables and lots of dealers--they all have opinions and aren't afraid to tell you what they think. And frankly, most have some level of expertise and usually have worthwhile input. Having said all of that, I love to engage them on handgun plus/minus and preference. Here's what I have gleaned about KAHR. Quality handgun, unique in weight and size in the concealable line with the only real criticism being the so-called break-in period. One guy even suggested that I needed to factor the cost of 400 rounds into my purchase price. As if I wasn't going to fire lots of rounds thru anything I buy! My own experience has been perfect with the exception of a single FTF in the first clip I fired thru my P9. So, the bottom line of my comment: Spending all the time I do in an experienced, strongly opinionated, expert laden gun show environment and the only criticism of KAHR is a 400 round break-in period....I have a quality, dependable weapon that spends everyday on my hip at the ready.

[crazymailman]

I own 2 Kahrs and have previously owned 2 others with not one problem with any of them. All guns of evrey brand have problems from time to time. I've had two Glocks, neither of which were 100% reliable, but they are still good guns. If you search enough, you'll find negative posts on Beretta, Sig, Kimber, etc. But, as you said, it seems some people are on a crusade to tear Kahr down. Some people are just so fanatical about one brand that if you mention another, they take it as personal as if you called their mom a tramp.

[yqtszhj]

I have had 2, a CW9 and and then traded for a CM9. I still miss the CW9. I have had no problems with either of them right out of the box. About the best pistol I have ever bought. I like them for the same reason that you stated that they are compact like a .380 with a 9mm round. Kahr makes a good gun. cant beat it. I had a glock one time and wouldn't by another one for my purposes. Kimber has a long breakin period I have read. Now the S&W 9mm, I don't know but they say they are pretty good.

[jocko]

actually 200 round break in recommended by kahr not 400. I feel I am still breaking in my PM9 at 32K. I am waiting for it to smooth out "more"
We make way way to much to do aobut the break inb stuff. 99% work perfect out of the box but one would be a damn fool to buy any gun, yes even an HK or Sig and not put rounds through it to be assured it is good to go. WHAT DO YOUCALL THOSE ROUNDS??break in--range timne-target shooting- who gives a rats ass what those first 100 or 200 rounds are called. If you buy a gun shoot the damn thing like u stole it. Every one of thse gun companies feel rounds down range when new is needed to BE SURE IT IS RIGHT. If you don't shoot it how ihn thge hell are u ever going toknow.

You can shoot a gun a 1000 rounds flawless and say "alright this puppy is good to go" and the very next round "click". No one can forsee what that next trigger pull is going to do..

[Russ]

Thanks... I will admit the first few trips to the range have been a little tough. I shot 100 rounds of PMC and when I was bench resting with a tight hold of my wrist with my free hand it was stove piping every shot. When I started to shoot in the standing position with the last 50 rounds of PMC it did much better. O went to Federal 115 and it went ok. One in 50 the slide help on the back of the shell. I also encountered a night sight problem where the front sight come off. I am hoping Kahr fixed. I have not hot back to test. I think if I was to sum up my experience it started out little disappointing but it has gotten better. I now have 650 rounds shot in two months. Kahr had the him twice for about 3 weeks.

[Bill K]

Oh crap! In my carry system is a Kahr, a Glock and a Kel-Tec. Sure hope I never have to use one of them.

[jocko]

ur in deep sh-t my friend. none of those guns are reliable!!!!! I would suggest a Jenniong J22 for best results or even the rarier Jennig 380j. Now there is a gun you can shoot until the cows come home. deadly accurate out to 50 yards also. Dammn I miss that gun..

somewhere back a few years ago I read where the Jennings company made and sold over 2 million of those guns.

[jmurch]

I have a G17 but only for competition. I wouldn't carry it. I have a P220 for winter (or what we call winters here in Mesa, AZ anyway) and a MK9 I'm almost ready to carry for summer.

So far with the MK9 I have around 500 rounds thru it and haven't had a single malfunction. Those 500 rounds have consisted of 115, 124 and 147 reloads, factory 124s and 147s, alternating different loads in the same mag, etc.

I bought mine used and then did the research (doh) but the only consistant compaint I've seen is from people that have never learned that you don't rack a slide and then walk it forward. If you do that of course it will fail.

eff

[O'Dell]

see even O'dell thinks glocks are terriblel. I tend to say my G19 is the finest shooting firearm I have ever had. The majority will not agree with O'dell but he could go on every damn gun forum and state his negatives and then ur gonna read where a poster is now asking questions about the issues with glocks etc.

remember opinions are just that opinions.

Touche! However my dislike of Glocks is because I cannot shoot them well. It has to do with the thickness of the grip and the grip angle. Glock is the only pistol that ever gave me that problem. Anyway, I did qualify the statement as an opinion.

[hubbard]

I have a G17 but only for competition. I wouldn't carry it. I have a P220 for winter (or what we call winters here in Mesa, AZ anyway) and a MK9 I'm almost ready to carry for summer.

So far with the MK9 I have around 500 rounds thru it and haven't had a single malfunction. Those 500 rounds have consisted of 115, 124 and 147 reloads, factory 124s and 147s, alternating different loads in the same mag, etc.

I bought mine used and then did the research (doh) but the only consistant compaint I've seen is from people that have never learned that you don't rack a slide and then walk it forward. If you do that of course it will fail.

eff

I did a little research before buying my first one. Heard awesome things about the gun, the concealability, and all. But lots of limp wrist FTE and failure to chamber. I figured I can shoot without a limp wrist. And I don't baby the slide on my guns when I chamber the first one. When you fire it, it doesn't slowly forward, the damn things are meant to work off explosions. There's nothing gentle about it.

Although, is the Glock hate sarcasm? I've had nothing but good luck with the 9, .40, and .45 ACP Glock's I've owned. Except for how damn big they are.