Ran into a bit of trouble today

[O'Dell]

I would guess that at least 85% of my 100's of books... paperbacks and hard covers(can't wait) have the Baen logo on the spine. I do read military and techno-thrillers, too. I've been an avid reader since learning how to read at age 6. That's something that kids miss out on these days... imagination & empathy... experiencing adventures with your vivid imagination in FIRST PERSON... as a character in the book. Too many kids sit around with their electronic games blowing away anything and everyone... promoting their self-esteem... that they are the center of the universe! That's real preparation for dealing with others or seeing things from anyone else's perspective.

I don't think it made me any less manly when I was Nancy Drew solving a mystery, or Nurse Bartlet(?), or the Hardy Boys, and others I read about in those very young years, but I got into science fiction very early and learned quite a bit, as a lot of the early writers were sticklers for science facts, as well as fiction... HG Wells, Edgar Rice Burroughs(Tarzan and John Carter), Jules Verne, and Robert Heinlein... and Andre Norton... didn't know she was a woman... didn't care... great writer!

Wynn

I was reading books before I started school thanks to a very wise mother. At one time I had every Hardy Boys book ever written. If I remember correctly, they were 89 cents and I saved for them. I'll admit that I read the Nancy Drew books too because I was desperate for reading material, but I never collected them. Heinlein, Clark, and Asimov were on my short list too. Question! Who wrote "Pebbles in the Sky"? Was that Heinlein? I've been trying to remember for a long time. I'm pretty sure "Seetee Ship" [sp?] was one of his.

Now, I also read techno's and military, but they don't write them fast enough. Therefore, I read a lot of mysteries, especially legal ones, and anything that looks remotely interesting, like Physics, math, and cosmology.

[wyntrout]

That was Asimov... an early favorite, also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_in_the_Sky

The ? Ship... not sure, but Anne McCaffrey wrote a series of novels about sentient spaceships... real AI-controlled by a real human brain rescued from a dying body.

Wynn

[Scoundrel]

That was Asimov... an early favorite, also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_in_the_Sky

The ? Ship... not sure, but Anne McCaffrey wrote a series of novels about sentient spaceships... real AI-controlled by a real human brain rescued from a dying body.

Wynn

Threadjack! Threadjack!

"The Ship Who Sang" started that series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_McCaffrey
Search for "The Brain & Brawn Ship series" to read the synopsis.

[Bawanna]

That was Asimov... an early favorite, also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_in_the_Sky

The ? Ship... not sure, but Anne McCaffrey wrote a series of novels about sentient spaceships... real AI-controlled by a real human brain rescued from a dying body.

Wynn

Wow, I think I read that one. Really. There was a part where they could move the ships around the base by themselves cause the real human brain controlled the space ship.

Danged if I ain't feeling just a little bit worldly today. What a sensation for a displaced Missouri dirt farmer. I think I even enjoyed it if I'm remembering right.

[O'Dell]

Red Phoenix is terrific. I think that Clancy helped him with that one. Larry Bond is a favorite, too, not as prolific as some, though.

Wynn

Larry Bond was my favorite through Red Phoenix, Vortex, and Cauldron, but after that he sorta lost me. I especially liked "Cauldron" because we got to kick French tail. I also very much liked Coyle's earlier books when he wrote about armor which he knew well. Oddly enough, I could only put three of Clancy's in my favorites; Hunt, Red Storm, and Debt of Honor. I've read all of them though.

[wyntrout]

I love Coyle's books, too, and Taylor, Tom Wilson, Mark Berent(what happened to him?), Dale Brown(B52's, of course!). Ralph Peters, Herman, and many others... Hagberg, and kind of got burnt out on submarine novels, Tillman, Coonts....

Oh, I started school at 5 in Tampa, not turning 6 until June '46, after the first grade.

Wynn

[O'Dell]

That was Asimov... an early favorite, also.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_in_the_Sky

The ? Ship... not sure, but Anne McCaffrey wrote a series of novels about sentient spaceships... real AI-controlled by a real human brain rescued from a dying body.

Wynn

Seetee, I think, was the author's word for anti-matter. In other words a spaceship from a galaxy where anti-matter was the norm. Today we know that that's highly unlikely.

[O'Dell]

I love Coyle's books, too, and Taylor, Tom Wilson, Mark Berent(what happened to him?), Dale Brown(B52's, of course!). Ralph Peters, Herman, and many others... Hagberg, and kind of got burnt out on submarine novels, Tillman, Coonts....

Oh, I started school at 5 in Tampa, not turning 6 until June '46, after the first grade.

Wynn

By Taylor do you mean Charles D? I've got a bunch of his books, but they're mostly about subs. Let us not forget Douglas Reeman, all Brit Navy, or Martin Caiden, mostly flying. I also like Tillman, Hagburg and Berent. Coontz wrote a couple of good ones, Flight, and The Intruders, but he could get pretty unbelievable too. I know Dale Brown and we've never gotten along; the AF vs Navy thing. He wasn't even a pilot in the AF - he was a navigator. Then there's Joe Weber.

[O'Dell]

Seetee, I think, was the author's word for anti-matter. In other words a spaceship from a galaxy where anti-matter was the norm. Today we know that that's highly unlikely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seetee_Ship

I found Seetee Ship. Evidently it was not highly regarded, but I've remembered it for almost sixty years. I was a kid - what did I know? SeeTee was anti-matter, so I was right about that.

[OldLincoln]

I'm with you on Clancy. He gets old pretty quick with sooo much detail that I skip a few paragraphs. Never happens with Steve Coonts, Dale Brown, Cussler and most others. If I don't like it half way through I put it away. Some are just over the top terrific and I look up and see it's the middle of the night. Those include Ken Follett, Ludlum, and others. I didn't expect to like Follett, but read my first one because my BIL insisted. It was something Pillars and about 1400 pages. Now I read all his I can.

[O'Dell]

I'm with you on Clancy. He gets old pretty quick with sooo much detail that I skip a few paragraphs. Never happens with Steve Coonts, Dale Brown, Cussler and most others. If I don't like it half way through I put it away. Some are just over the top terrific and I look up and see it's the middle of the night. Those include Ken Follett, Ludlum, and others. I didn't expect to like Follett, but read my first one because my BIL insisted. It was something Pillars and about 1400 pages. Now I read all his I can.

Clancy was good in his first two books, Hunt and Red Storm. Then someone told him he needed to do more character and plot development. At that point he became tedious. For example I liked Debt of Honor. However, this was an 800 page book and the first 650 pages were setup. Nearly all the action took place in the last 150 pages.

I just finished Cussler's "The Race" He's entertaining but is a bit light. I know I've read Follett, but off the top of my head, I can remember any titles. I've never read Ludlum.

I'm weird about reading books - if I start it I finish it, always. I'm about 2/3 through Griffin's The Outlaws right now and I hate it. However, I'll tough it out and finish it tonight. Then on to something better, I hope.

[wyntrout]

By Taylor do you mean Charles D? I've got a bunch of his books, but they're mostly about subs. Let us not forget Douglas Reeman, all Brit Navy, or Martin Caiden, mostly flying. I also like Tillman, Hagburg and Berent. Coontz wrote a couple of good ones, Flight, and The Intruders, but he could get pretty unbelievable too. I know Dale Brown and we've never gotten along; the AF vs Navy thing. He wasn't even a pilot in the AF - he was a navigator. Then there's Joe Weber.

Wow! That's pretty "racist"! As the radar navigator... the Bombardier and the whole purpose of a BOMBER, he and I told the PILOTS where to go... the freaking bus drivers. We didn't even have windows... kept in a dark cave with radar screens... and later Low-Light TV and FLIR (Forward Looking Infra-Red) as well. Late in MY career, the Air Force finally started giving more say and even command to the RANKING Officer, not just the ranking bus driver.

I think that Dale was also in FB111s... the :fighter"-bomber version. Notice how the B52's HAVE outlived and are outliving ALL of the other bombers.

I was thinking I should have started a LITERARY Thread. That's one thing about this forum... since I've been a member, this has become the norm! Coincidence?? Sorry!
For further discussion, here's a new thread for book fans:

http://kahrtalk.com/showthread.php?p=99416#post99416


Wynn

[O'Dell]

Wow! That's pretty "racist"! As the radar navigator... the Bombardier and the whole purpose of a BOMBER, he and I told the PILOTS where to go... the freaking bus drivers. We didn't even have windows... kept in a dark cave with radar screens... and later Low-Light TV and FLIR (Forward Looking Infra-Red) as well. Late in MY career, the Air Force finally started giving more say and even command to the RANKING Officer, not just the ranking bus driver.

I think that Dale was also in FB111s... the :fighter"-bomber version. Notice how the B52's HAVE outlived and are outliving ALL of the other bombers.

I was thinking I should have started a LITERARY Thread. That's one thing about this forum... since I've been a member, this has become the norm! Coincidence?? Sorry!

Wynn

Sorry, I forgot that little item in your resume. I had a guy in the back of my F-4 with a radar screen too. But if he had tried to tell me where to go, I would have command ejected him. Maybe that's why Navy airplane drivers are aviators and AF drivers are pilots.

[Husky44]

Here I thought this thread was going to be about an encounter with a potential BG, by the title "Ran into a bit of trouble today". Little did I realize I was walking into the Jane Austen book club...

[Scoundrel]

Can't judge a thread by its title!
Can't judge a book by its cover!