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  • #16
    Excellent advice from Barth and it's in line with a few legal types I've spoken to. Never had to draw a weapon and certainly hope I don't ever have to. But if I do!! Then I will.

    Always best to avoid a bad situation if you can.
    Thanks,
    Steve

    NRA Member since 2008
    Maine CCW Holder

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    • #17
      I was driving down I-70 about 2 or 3 in the morning when this car comes up behinds me and clicks on it's bright lights, I slowed down and he passed me, then he slowed down and I passed him and then he got on my tail with the bright lights again. I slowed down again and he passed rather slowly, checking me out, and when he was in front of me I pulled up along side and got my .357 out and pointed it their general direction and turned on the dome light and showed them I was armed. SCREEECH went his brakes as they slowed way up and they no longer bothered me the rest of the trip. I had longish hair at the time and they may have thought I was a woman.
      Another time the next door neighbor was beating his ex-wife severely, enough I was concerned for her life and I told him to stop it at gun point. He did, the cops were called and I got in a little bit of trouble for interfering with a domestic squabble. I guess I was supposed to wait until the cops got there but wasn't sure she'd last that long. Both these were long before CC in Kansas. Both were over 20 years ago so I doubt if there would be any legal repercussions today.
      Tom
      Live today, tomorrow may not come!
      Boberg XR9S
      Kahr CW40
      Springfield Armory 1911
      Dan Wesson Revolver

      HY*NDAI is to cars, what Caracal, Hi-Point, and Jennings is to handguns. The cars may or may not run ok, but the corporation SUCKS.

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      • #18
        Yes I have, no I won't. I must be feeling charitable today.
        Attitude: it takes 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile...and 3 for proper trigger squeeze.

        The olive branch is considered a symbol of peace, and good will. Last time I checked, it's still a switch.

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        • #19
          Most people seem to not realize that the PC they are sitting in front of is a terrific search engine and with the help of Google or something else, you kind find almost anything... certainly anything you've ever typed online. I search for stuff all of the time and it's amazing how often my own words pop up... from here on Kahrtalk... something to remember if you ever get lawyers or prosecutors looking for something to use against you... like too much macho bravado or what you would do to a BG.

          That's something to remember.

          Wynn
          USAF Retired '88, NRA Life Member. Wife USAF Retired '96
          Avatar: Wynn re-enlists his wife Desiree, circa 1988 Loring AFB, ME. 42nd BMW, Heavy (SAC) B-52G's
          Frédéric Bastiat’s essay, The Law: http://mises.org/books/thelaw.pdf

          Thomas Jefferson said

          “A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.”
          and

          "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading".

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          • #20
            Most of the stuff I'd like to do to a bad guy I wouldn't mind doing to most lawyers.

            I'm going to hell for this one I just know it.
            http://bawanna45.wix.com/bawannas-grip-emporium#!
            In Memory of Paul "Dietrich" Stines.
            Dad: Say something nice to your cousin Shirley
            Dietrich: For a fat girl you sure don't sweat much.
            Cue sound of Head slap.

            RIP Muggsy & TMan

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Bawanna View Post
              Most of the stuff I'd like to do to a bad guy I wouldn't mind doing to most lawyers.
              In most cases, both are equally deserving.
              Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important.
              C. S. Lewis


              They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
              Benjamin Franklin

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              • #22
                Given enough time most really bad lawyers morph into politicians.
                "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know."
                Ralph Waldo Emerson

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bill K View Post
                  Given enough time most really bad lawyers morph into politicians.
                  A lawyer is considered the "larval stage" of a politician.
                  LaP

                  I have no fear of perfection... I'll never reach it.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Bill K View Post
                    1) Have you ever had to use your gun in self defense?
                    Yes.

                    2) Did you need to simply declare it, show it, or actually shoot it?
                    Shoot.

                    3) What was the outcome?
                    Briefly, I went home. He went to the hospital and later to jail.

                    4) Did you feel "prepared?"
                    This is the type of question you do not answer without counsel.

                    5) What helpful advice could you offer a class full of teachable students (like me)?
                    The situation can unfold in spite of your awareness skills, in broad day light and in the best/safest neighborhood/place you might imagine.
                    Your adversary(s) might very well be as trained and practiced in their dastardly skills as you are in your SD skills and probably more so if all you do is square range practice.
                    A whole bunch of other stuff but this is not the time or place to expound.
                    Bill, thanks for your responses. I realize this is not the place to expound, but to share only insights like you have that give me some helpful, practical wisdom. Much of what has already been said was taught in my CHL Class, but I find it especially helpful when those facts are attached to real people and their situations. I'll continue to pick the brains of you and others, learning as much as I can. While I acknowedge God as my ultimate Protector, I admit He's given me common sense and the responsibility to be His "assistant" in caring for my family. Good advice!
                    God is good, ALL the time!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by jlottmc View Post
                      Yes I have, no I won't. I must be feeling charitable today.
                      No problem, jlottmc. Totally respect that. Many times I learn more by what is NOT shared. Your silence speaks volumes of wisdom. Thanks.
                      God is good, ALL the time!

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                      • #26
                        Treading on Thin Ice?

                        Originally posted by wyntrout View Post
                        Most people seem to not realize that the PC they are sitting in front of is a terrific search engine and with the help of Google or something else, you kind find almost anything... certainly anything you've ever typed online. I search for stuff all of the time and it's amazing how often my own words pop up... from here on Kahrtalk... something to remember if you ever get lawyers or prosecutors looking for something to use against you... like too much macho bravado or what you would do to a BG.

                        That's something to remember.

                        Wynn
                        I hear what you're saying, wyntrout. That's exactly why I mentioned to share as you feel comfortable in my original post. I'm aware how what we say and type can/will be used against us, and I'm assuming everyone will use conventional wisdom and avoid "macho bravado" stories or dreams. Thanks for reminding the other posters to be careful with what they share.

                        Kahrtalk is not my only source of education about concealed carry and self defense laws, practices. I've read (and continue to read) articles and posts, especially from concealedcarry.com. In addition to all that other reading, I like the personal, almost "instant" interaction with you and the other pros on this forum. So, write on! As Frasier would say, "I'm listening!"
                        God is good, ALL the time!

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                        • #27
                          Great Link!

                          Originally posted by Rainman48314 View Post
                          Thanks, Rainman48314. I've been there before and will return to search and learn more. Great site.
                          God is good, ALL the time!

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                          • #28
                            The answer to 1. YES!! I need not make any further comment on the situation (a long time ago)
                            Be prepared for what might happen nextl

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by cgff View Post
                              The answer to 1. YES!! I need not make any further comment on the situation (a long time ago)
                              Be prepared for what might happen nextl
                              Thanks, cgff! No further comment is needed. The whole purpose of beginning this thread was to help us all become prepared for what might happen next. Appreciate your input!
                              God is good, ALL the time!

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                              • #30
                                sierrajb,
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                                cgff

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